Post by gmbtempe on May 2, 2010 0:33:14 GMT -5
So I decided to take a couple of my Hogan Apex and new Mizuno MP-32's to the range.
Here are the rough specs of the clubs.
Hogan Apex - 1/2 over, Apex 4 (very stiff, 7.1 frequency), swing weight for a 7 iron was E0, standard lie angle.
Mizuno MP-32 : Standard length, Project X 5.5 (between regular and stiff), swing weight for 7 iron was D0 (2 points less than standard specs), lie angle standard.
So ever since I got these Mizuno's I have been a little nervous that they are too light, and maybe a tad soft on the shaft flex. I decided to hit the 5 and 8 against each other. After I warmed up I hit 10 of each, and then reversed it and hit the other one first. So 80 shots total, I thought this would provide a good test.
Height - hands down the Apex, both the 5 iron and 8 irons went noticeably higher with on center hits. If you miss the Apex thin you get a very lowish shot, the Mizuno definitely helped out on this shots with height. No matter how good the strike the ball never hit the height of the Hogans.
Distance - 8 iron carry with Apex was 150ish and the Mizuno 145. On roll out they may have been similar. On mishits the Mizuno definitely provided a better shots but it had to be a pretty poor swing. I thought on marginal shots both clubs are not going to give you cavity back performance. The Hogans though on flush shots just seem to carry a little further.
Workability - I had trouble working either to much, maybe this was my swing, maybe the shitty range balls, but I could draw it a little but really no fade could be produced with either.
Feel - the Mizuno definitely is soft and gives you that great feel when they are flushed, but its not like the Hogans are shovels or something, its just not quite as sweet. On mishits the Hogans are going to tell you what you did to miss it without even looking at the ball flight. The Mizuno on misses did not feel to much different.
Overall - I think both are good clubs but the Apex just throttled them. Part of this probably is the setup. My swing is very much closer to TGM hitting than swinging and I think I am putting a heck of a load onto the shafts and those 5.5's just cant handle it. Throw in the light weight and its just not going to work. I think its more than just that though, I think the Apex produced a tighter dispersion and I agree with what Richie has said about Hogan clubs, they just seemed to be designed not to miss with a hook. I hit 40 shots with them and probably only hooked a couple, I hooked several more with the Mizuno's especially the 5 irons.
So I probably will sell these Mizuno's in a few weeks. I am going to clean up the Apex, which are still in good shape for 20 year old clubs, put on some new grips and roll with these extra stiff shafts. I will play with them next week and if they perform they may stay in the bag.
Here are the rough specs of the clubs.
Hogan Apex - 1/2 over, Apex 4 (very stiff, 7.1 frequency), swing weight for a 7 iron was E0, standard lie angle.
Mizuno MP-32 : Standard length, Project X 5.5 (between regular and stiff), swing weight for 7 iron was D0 (2 points less than standard specs), lie angle standard.
So ever since I got these Mizuno's I have been a little nervous that they are too light, and maybe a tad soft on the shaft flex. I decided to hit the 5 and 8 against each other. After I warmed up I hit 10 of each, and then reversed it and hit the other one first. So 80 shots total, I thought this would provide a good test.
Height - hands down the Apex, both the 5 iron and 8 irons went noticeably higher with on center hits. If you miss the Apex thin you get a very lowish shot, the Mizuno definitely helped out on this shots with height. No matter how good the strike the ball never hit the height of the Hogans.
Distance - 8 iron carry with Apex was 150ish and the Mizuno 145. On roll out they may have been similar. On mishits the Mizuno definitely provided a better shots but it had to be a pretty poor swing. I thought on marginal shots both clubs are not going to give you cavity back performance. The Hogans though on flush shots just seem to carry a little further.
Workability - I had trouble working either to much, maybe this was my swing, maybe the shitty range balls, but I could draw it a little but really no fade could be produced with either.
Feel - the Mizuno definitely is soft and gives you that great feel when they are flushed, but its not like the Hogans are shovels or something, its just not quite as sweet. On mishits the Hogans are going to tell you what you did to miss it without even looking at the ball flight. The Mizuno on misses did not feel to much different.
Overall - I think both are good clubs but the Apex just throttled them. Part of this probably is the setup. My swing is very much closer to TGM hitting than swinging and I think I am putting a heck of a load onto the shafts and those 5.5's just cant handle it. Throw in the light weight and its just not going to work. I think its more than just that though, I think the Apex produced a tighter dispersion and I agree with what Richie has said about Hogan clubs, they just seemed to be designed not to miss with a hook. I hit 40 shots with them and probably only hooked a couple, I hooked several more with the Mizuno's especially the 5 irons.
So I probably will sell these Mizuno's in a few weeks. I am going to clean up the Apex, which are still in good shape for 20 year old clubs, put on some new grips and roll with these extra stiff shafts. I will play with them next week and if they perform they may stay in the bag.
