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Post by pingman on Oct 31, 2010 22:05:45 GMT -5
I have enjoyed reading this forum and have learned a lot from the members. I have been a life long hacker that would really like to improve. I have been trying to implement some of the things that Shawn Clement's promotes in his videos. My goal is to get to the point where I own my swing and can self correct when I am out on the course. I seem to be either on or off. When I am off golf can be very frustrating. I am going to use the fall/winter season to work on my swing action. Attached is my swing with a 6 iron. When I miss, the ball tends to go right (hook as I am left handed). I also hit the ball on the toe. I can hit a very consistent driver, but I struggle with my irons because my contact is not consistent and out towards the toe. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. www.youtube.com/user/mrjim0918#p/a/u/2/kAnMU88SGekwww.youtube.com/user/mrjim0918#p/a/u/1/2KzIlUjLx4Awww.youtube.com/user/mrjim0918#p/a/u/0/SZrvLxNafIA |
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Post by gmbtempe on Oct 31, 2010 22:17:19 GMT -5
pingman,
Pretty good motion.
I almost hate commenting because I like everyone else am trying to get better. There are other more qualified than me but....
The one thing that sticks out most is the backswing, it appears your right arm is not folding properly. It seems to stay straight like its fighting the natural folding motion that it needs to make. I don't know how much of the top of your backswing position is caused by this move but its something I bet is costing power and aiding in the hook. Extension is great but not by keeping the right arm straight.
I am not surprised you say you hook it because the face looks closed and you really hold off the finish probably trying to not let that face turn over and hook it.
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Post by natep on Oct 31, 2010 22:53:51 GMT -5
I could be wrong, but I think gmbtempe means your left arm.
Looks like you're letting your left elbow get too high before it starts folding, and this gets you finishing your backswing kinda steep.
Pretty good looking swing though.
I love how you're just blasting balls through the neighborhood!! Lol!
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Post by gmbtempe on Oct 31, 2010 23:08:00 GMT -5
I think there is a serious flaw with the arm structure, shouldnt the left elbow fold and work more behind him rather then stay straight and lift? Here is a comparison of my power assembly (arms and clubshaft) and pingmans. Something looks off. I could be way off base here. As that left arm folds the right wrist should cock, I dont see very much cocking of that right wrist either, the lift to the top and bending of the right arm is just a "fake" to get it to a top position IMO.  Edited to reverse the terms for lefty golfer |
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Post by natep on Oct 31, 2010 23:10:37 GMT -5
No you are correct. You said his right arm though in the first post. It's his left arm you're talking about.
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Post by gmbtempe on Oct 31, 2010 23:11:23 GMT -5
No you are correct. You said his right arm though in the first post. It's his left arm you're talking about. ahhhh my bad, lefty golfer. You are correct. |
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Post by Ringer on Nov 8, 2010 18:42:27 GMT -5
Just looking at DTL right now.
P1 - You look set up considerably out on your toes and reaching. Lots of back curve which usually puts you in a bad spot with where your chin is when your right shoulder works under it.
P2 - Club is laid off and upper right arm rolled open. I think this stems mostly from your setup being so far away from the ball. People tend to take the club back more horizontally when they're further away from it and more steeply when they're close to it.
P3 - Actually the same position as P2 which indicates 0 left wrist hinging so your right arm and the club are virtually straight and parallel to the ground at the same time.
P4 - Left elbow gets considerably away from you which is rerouting your swing to get steep. It is now anti-hook. You've also managed to somehow get even MORE onto your toes. I very rarely see someone be this out of balance through their entire backswing.
P5 - All right arm tug and right shoulder tug. The lower body is not doing the work and I think that's mostly because you're not balanced good enough on your right foot for it to work. It isn't until you get your right arm parallel with the ground that you finally have the ability to push off the back foot and generate some lower body speed. But by then it's too late and your upper body has already started to go.
P6 - You're right down the plane and this one is going to be a good shot but your whole upper body is pulling away from the ball. If you don't time your pull perfectly then any number of poor shots could result from toe hits, to topping it, to fat or shanks. Also notice your back knee isn't driving forward toward your target, but rather out toward the ball.
P7 - Head down, eyes down, you really worked hard to keep the club from the inside as much as you could despite the early opening of the shoulders and pull away from the ball.
P8 - Flip past the ball trying to ensure the face closed and didn't stay too far open. You saved this one.
P9 - Butt end of the club is pointed at your target indicating a massive release of the club, but very little lower body involvement. It's as if your left leg was stuck in Albuquerque while the rest of you headed to Mexico.
P10 - No additional rotation to speak of past P9 indicating a BIG upper arm involvement and very little pivot. There's a lot of room for distance gains if you can teach your pivot to get involved.
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Post by pingman on Apr 29, 2011 12:06:16 GMT -5
I have been working on my swing with a focus on keeping my arms together and more in control tempo. Here is a view of my swing with a 7 iron with a down the line and caddy view. Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Post by tightdraw on Apr 29, 2011 20:21:51 GMT -5
There's a lot to like in the motion, but there are some things that need to be addressed. Just looking at the setup your back-hand (left) is way weak and over the shaft. This leads to it dominating in the take-away and rolling the club over and open at p2. from p3--4 it is all lift and steepness. This is the backswing.
The downswing is partially the result of your p4 position.
TD
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Post by gmbtempe on Apr 30, 2011 23:07:34 GMT -5
Biggest thing I see is you are barely making a turn, your hips need to turn more in the backswing and thus your shoulders. Fully turned you are still only getting like a 50 degree turn rather than 90 degree (or as close as possible).
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