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Post by cloran on Jan 11, 2012 22:20:39 GMT -5
(I tried a "search," but we all know how well that works on proboards) Has anyone tried the P3ProSwing analyzer? According to it's literature it measures: -angle of attack -path -face angle at impact -clubhead speed -shot distance -swing tempo -toe/heel height -SWEET SPOT DEVIATION!? Seems like the Holy Grail... for under $600... Sweet Spot Deviation display:
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Post by teeace on Jan 12, 2012 0:32:44 GMT -5
(I tried a "search," but we all know how well that works on proboards) Has anyone tried the P3ProSwing analyzer? According to it's literature it measures: -angle of attack -path -face angle at impact -clubhead speed -shot distance -swing tempo -toe/heel height -SWEET SPOT DEVIATION!? Seems like the Holy Grail... for under $600... Sweet Spot Deviation display: I still have it somewhere in my closet. I would say it's guessing things quite well as many other devices do BUT! I believe in some cases these devices are even more accurate than TM or FS, because they really see the face, specially if you use that tape with it and line it well. Hmm.. could I arrange some tine... I got this device, I got FS... maybe something interesting coming out guys...
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 12, 2012 8:05:39 GMT -5
teeace -
How does this device sees/measures the face behind the ball at impact and any resulting twisting imparted on the face as a result of the collision between the ball and the face that is non centered?
Could you post a video with FS and P3 analyzing the same shot?
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Post by teeace on Jan 12, 2012 8:23:53 GMT -5
teeace - So this device sees/measures the face behind the ball at impact and any resulting gear effect imparted on the face as a result of the collision between the ball and the face? Could you post a video with FS and P3 analyzing the same shot? No. It sees the face two times couple of inches before impact and bit after impact and calculates the numbers between those points, so we can say it can see somehow the rate of closure. I don't know if you have already understood how TM and FS makes it, but effective face angle is really good definition to that. You understand much more about those when you hit some really bad shots and look at the results of club head measurements. Or I'm really not sure you will, but majority of us will.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 12, 2012 8:54:28 GMT -5
Fully aware of how Trackman calculcates face angle and I don't fight the definition or the twisting of the club at impact in the "effective" face angle calculation.
How about a picture of the data for the same shot on P3 and FS? Hit a good shot and hit one off the toe. The toe shots would be interesting given the face angle calculations for each device.
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Post by teeace on Jan 12, 2012 8:57:04 GMT -5
Fully aware of how Trackman calculcates face angle and I don't fight the definition or the twisting of the club at impact in the "effective" face angle calculation. How about a picture of the data for the same shot on P3 and FS? Hit a good shot and hit one off the toe. The toe shots would be interesting given the face angle calculations for each device. So you know it doesn't read the face, but calculates it from ball flight. Fine. But I will make the test when I got time and post the results here. There might be interesting difference even with good impacts
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 12, 2012 9:00:39 GMT -5
Thanks. Look forward to the results.
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Post by kevcarter on Jan 12, 2012 11:22:03 GMT -5
Pretty exciting stuff!
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Post by golfdad on Jan 12, 2012 11:59:57 GMT -5
I think the question is not as much about whether a machine performs certain functions as how well it does, in consideration of the situation in question, when we talk about things other than TM or Flightscope.
I got a different brand of cheaper simulator for indoor winter use for my kids starting last winter simply to answer the question whether they are hitting straight toward the net and if off, how much off. I think the machine is reasonably acceptable for that purpose and I think using it last winter indoor is better than not using anything at all. Repeating the same motion into the net with no feedback is pretty scary.
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