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Post by bentshaft on Feb 15, 2013 14:37:52 GMT -5
When people ask me about weight shift, I always put a ball to their trail hand and ask them to throw it as far as possible. All the time questions of the still head and weight shift ends right away. Everyone who has made some other sports got these natural movement and I just keep wondering why so many tries to create new kind of wheel in golf. Hit something or throw something... it's always natural move and should not be changed when we got golf club in our hands ... Because many people can't hit/throw something. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=5c_onhzgvcY&sns=em[/youtube] fukking perfect---thank you... bent
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Post by LostMyPassword on Feb 21, 2013 1:10:18 GMT -5
More in this vein from 5SK.
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Post by LostMyPassword on Feb 21, 2013 1:11:38 GMT -5
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Post by cloran on Feb 21, 2013 9:52:44 GMT -5
Here are some force plate numbers from the S&T 2.0 dvd.
Six iron: (8 pros, 2 instructors, 1 swing each) These #s represent the force plate readings for the lead foot at P1, P4, P7... % force on the lead foot.
60, 54, 83 66, 69, 85 55, 54, 78 63, 57, 80 62, 51, 90 66, 51, 90 64, 52, 75 61, 65, 86 57, 54, 82 52, 52, 60
Driver: (8 pros, 1 instructor, 1 swing)
60, 80, 73 60, 54, 69 63, 69, 83 64, 51, 82 58, 67, 82 51, 59, 56 60, 64, 86 66, 67, 88 61, 51, 78
These numbers say a lot... and they have helped me a bunch recently. I know what they tell me... what do they tell you?
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Post by mchepp on Feb 21, 2013 20:03:38 GMT -5
cloran does the video show what kind of force plate system was used?
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Post by cloran on Feb 21, 2013 21:20:04 GMT -5
GASP Systems
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Post by mchepp on Feb 21, 2013 21:21:50 GMT -5
Reason I ask is in the golf evolution video they show a SAM weight system and how it can sometimes be misleading. I am not sure about GASP.
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Post by cloran on Feb 21, 2013 21:36:55 GMT -5
Reason I ask is in the golf evolution video they show a SAM weight system and how it can sometimes be misleading. I am not sure about GASP. Looks like that particular software can have some syncronization issues with video, but I think it's pretty obvious to see when/where the pressure goes.
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Post by cloran on Feb 21, 2013 21:43:46 GMT -5
Look at the middle numbers from my earlier post... all at P4.
None <50%
Where would your "weight" feel to you if the majority is on the lead foot throughout the entire swing? Regardless of where the pressure moves because of the arms, club, etc; wouldn't your weight feel like it was always on the lead foot?
Now, these numbers occur when professional golfers are told to INCREASE the pressure in the lead foot from P1-P4
What happens when an amateur is told to shift their weight to their rear leg/foot?
Disaster, that's what.
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Post by jeffy on Feb 22, 2013 12:13:18 GMT -5
Look at the middle numbers from my earlier post... all at P4. None <50% Where would your "weight" feel to you if the majority is on the lead foot throughout the entire swing? Regardless of where the pressure moves because of the arms, club, etc; wouldn't your weight feel like it was always on the lead foot? Now, these numbers occur when professional golfers are told to INCREASE the pressure in the lead foot from P1-P4 What happens when an amateur is told to shift their weight to their rear leg/foot?
Disaster, that's what.Not necessarily; it can be done very successfully if all the right pieces are in place:
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 22, 2013 13:03:13 GMT -5
Look at the middle numbers from my earlier post... all at P4. None <50% Where would your "weight" feel to you if the majority is on the lead foot throughout the entire swing? Regardless of where the pressure moves because of the arms, club, etc; wouldn't your weight feel like it was always on the lead foot? Now, these numbers occur when professional golfers are told to INCREASE the pressure in the lead foot from P1-P4 What happens when an amateur is told to shift their weight to their rear leg/foot?
Disaster, that's what.Not necessarily; it can be done very successfully if all the right pieces are in place: Anything can work....I think shifting weight gets easily understood as sway off the ball if it is not accurately shown to a student or novice.
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Post by cloran on Feb 22, 2013 14:24:46 GMT -5
I agree Greg.
I don't know what the results were of this particular swing, but in my opinion it is easier to "get away with" a distinct weight shift when hitting off a tee.
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Post by mikewb280 on Dec 27, 2015 16:08:49 GMT -5
I'm a little late to the party but...
SnT fundamental one is controlling the low point which is made easier by not moving off the ball. For those in the early stages of golf it proves quick results when I'm sure we'd agree the average new golfer tends to shift both weight and pressure to the rear foot and stand up to increase 'shoulder turn'.
When throwing a ball both weight and pressure shift I agree but there is no need for controlling low point.
I believe there is a clip of Mike Bennet saying SnT is a system to hit the ball long with control. If they (Mike and Andy) were creating a system for long drives this wouldn't be it. If they were creating a system to hit shots straight it wouldn't be it... but as a system to play the long shots it works very well.
Seeing SnT in action it really does give structure to some lessons that you'd look at and scratch your head with.
Happy New Year all.
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