Tebow to Patriots!

[cwdlaw223]

Going to be interesting. I think he has a 40% chance to make the team. The guy is a real leader, fighter and all around footballer. He's just not an NFL quarterback. Gronk is going to be out for at least 4-6 games. TE?

Bill could get a RB/TE/QB in one guy. Tebow has to be one of the best dual threat QBs from the five yard in. Defenses have to respect him as a real RB.

I hope he makes it and contributes. If not, millions still await him in broadcasting or speaking engagements. Not that many high profile character guys like him.

If Bill makes this work I'll praise him even more (I tend to give Bill a lot of credit whether he deserves it or not. The Patriots have been the gold standard for the past ten years. Like the Spurs).

[Richie3Jack]

I usually don't have a problem with these types of moves. You sign a player at a low price and don't give up draft picks...if he works out, you just made a major coupe for your organization. If not, you can release him. That's why I have been hoping the Cowboys would look at Jamarcus Russell if he's really serious about making a team. Stash him away at the #3 QB spot and see if he develops. If he doesn't, cut him and be done with it.

My issue is that the main company in charge of sports reporting is ESPN and they will not make a big deal out of this. To me, it's unfair to the Jets where ESPN created hysteria every day with Tebow in NY. The same with T.O. in Dallas. It's to the point where the Cowboys have to avoid taking chances on these players because the media will make it into a circus.

It's funny that when Randy Moss came to New England he was soon proclaimed a 'leader' by ESPN and company. It's pretty easy to be a leader when your team goes 17-0 and is stacked with talent. It's another thing when your team is 4-12 and they need you to actually lead them and hopefully get better pieces in the offseason and progress the next year. Eventually Moss started loafing around out there and the media, particularly ESPN, paid no mind. But, when he was in Minnesota and said that he doesn't play every down hard, they skewered them for it.

I agree though. I think his chances of making the team are about 40%. The issue I see with Tebow is you can't really use him on trick plays because he's so awful throwing the ball. Antwaan Randle-El couldn't play NFL QB, but when he threw the ball on trick plays he was incredibly effective. Watching Tebow throw on the run is a sad sight to see. I think that his ability on trick plays is what will determine if he makes the team or not.







3JACK

[cwdlaw223]

ESPN is full of crap. The PSU story (which was huge, don't get me wrong) changed how the media views themselves. Now the media thinks its their job to not only report news, but to make up news and try to change the world. They're doing this with Rutgers. If someone stands up to them they get mad and go after the people who don't agree with them.

[Richie3Jack]

Well, I think the Bernie Fine story was the shining example.

Bobby Davis more or less didn't really go to the Syracuse police to report this. He called them, but couldn't be bothered to actually show up to Syracuse to talk to investigators or send them his phone conversation with Laurie Fine. And ESPN had that evidence all along and didn't bring it to the forefront until they got exposed for being late to the party in the PSU scandal. And when ESPN was asked why they didn't turn in the evidence to the police, they said 'it's not our job.'

If that's not arrogance, I don't know what is.






3JACK

[cwdlaw223]

The only real "media" that's left are individual bloggers with first hand knowledge of events. Sad, but reality. The big media try to change culture and think very highly of themselves. The Fine story was another example of ESPN looking to create something out of nothing and trying to look good in the process. They will keep on acting this way because they had so much success with the PSU story.

I wonder if an SEC team will face their wrath given the SEC's TV deal with (I think) ESPN.

[Richie3Jack]

I would be shocked if ESPN did that.

They clearly pick and choose 'favorites' when it comes to reporting.

I know you hate to hear this, but they chose Paterno as a favorite. That's why they were so late to the PSU story. Then they were getting beat badly by all of the other news media outlets and joined in the fracas.

There was memos found by Deadspin showing that they were to NOT report anything on the Roethlisberger situation, even though he went to trial in a civil suit for sexual assault.

And IIRC, they had the same situation with Brett Favre and Jenn Sterger.

They clearly try to sweep things under the rug if they have some sort of relationship with the person/organization in question. And it's not until they see they are getting beat badly by other news organizations in covering the story that they finally report it.





3JACK

[cwdlaw223]

Late? They were the ones that took the story and ran with it. The AGs office took forever to bring charges and the new AG (who said she would investigate the delay) found the delay was legitimate. My local paper was the first to report. ESPN took it nationally for weeks on end.

I'm not a fan of Paterno, but he did nothing implicitly or explicitly wrong to hinder an investigation or cover anything up. Read the Freeh report and then read the report by Thornburg. The Freeh report is a blatant attempt by the Trustees to cover their ass and there was no legitimate investigation by Freeh. Also, read the biography about Paterno that came out about a year ago. Great read.

Could more have been done by Paterno? Maybe, but he wasn't the police and could only do so much. Most of The actual crimes by Sandusky were committed off campus but if you listen to this story one would think the crimes happened while he was always on campus.

I wish the police and social services (and Joe) would have done more to stop Sandusky.

[Richie3Jack]

They were late to the story compared to CNN, FOX News, MSNBC and others. When the Grand Jury Investigation concluded, they were late to reporting anything about it. The other news networks didn't care about Paterno's legacy and ran with that story while ESPN lagged behind. When it got to the point where ESPN was clearly missing out, that is when they jumped in and ran with the story.

I think you know my position on the scandal. I fully believe Paterno knew. He was told about it by McQuery for crying out loud. And his claim that he didn't know what sodomy was is disrespecting our intelligence. The same with him 'going to the police' when Schultz was more or less a bean counter who also has no legal arresting authority in the state of Pennsylvania. And let's not forget the e-mails that Dr. Vicky Triponey, then the Chief Disciplinarian at the school, with regards to her wanting to discipline players for being arrested and it was rebuked with Paterno threatening to not raise any money for Penn State until she was fired and that he should be the only person to discipline players. He had a history of trying to cover up off the field transgressions with his players, so I don't see it as a leap that he would try to keep Sandusky under wraps.

I don't know if I would call Paterno 'evil.' But, he was a classic example of what happens when you have an environment where one person has entirely too much power. He clearly wasn't the guy everybody thought he was and in his own words, he 'could have done more' in a case of a serial child rapist that he employed for close to 30 years.







3JACK

[cwdlaw223]

You're incorrect about Schultz. He was in charge of campus police. He might not have had the authority to arrest someone, but he was in charge of campus police where any crimes on campus have to be reported.


I don't deny he had too much power, but he didn't foster evil nor was he evil. If you really want to blame someone, blame Sandusky and social services. Paterno was probably sick of double standards for his players when it comes to discipline for misdemeanors by administration. (I personally believe administration should be in charge even if there is a double standard). I detest the fact that Paterno had too much power, but the man did not commit a crime and nor did he cover up any investigation. Your position hinges upon McQueary who has changed his story more than once. I do not believe that McQueary told Paterno that he witnessed anything close to sodomy. Why? Because McQueary keeps changing his story.