Post by Richie3Jack on Sept 10, 2013 10:00:35 GMT -5
I've played a few new golf courses lately and have enjoyed some of them like Ritz Carlton - Grande Lakes, LPGA International Champions Course, Duran Golf Club, etc.
I know some people that read the blog have played Metrowest in Orlando since it's a fairly popular course. I always take interest in 'what I would do if I could renovate a course and had the money to do so.' It's pretty much an obsession of mine.
Anyway, Metrowest is going thru a $1.5 million renovation. Furthermore, they are showing YouTube videos of their course renovation.
You can see it at neworlandogolf.com/
I generally like Metrowest even though I've never played a good round there. I came close one time, shooting -2 on the front nine and then we got held back as a 2-some on the back nine and it took us 2:45 to play the back nine (tooks us 1:15 to play the front). I crapped out from there.
Metrowest is a Robert Trent Jones design and that's probably one of the reasons why I am fond of it as I grew up playing a lot of different RTJ designs in New York. RTJ went to Cornell so he is a very popular designer in Central New York. And even though this is in Orlando, it comes off as your typical RTJ design as Metrowest is probably the hilliest part inside the Orlando city limits. In fact, the tee on #13 is supposedly the highest point in Orlando.
Metrowest will be reshaping some of the greens. I don't recall a major problem with the shape of the greens. But, they are also switching to a TifEagle on the greens. I believe they had TifDwarf before. I'm a much bigger fan of TifEagle. It's much more durable and consistently provides a smoother surface, even in high traffic courses. The problem some people have with TifEagle is that you really can't go more than 10.5 on the stimpmeter. You can easily go 12 on the stimp on TifDwarf, but the grass is too inconsistent, it doesn't handle traffic well and it often times becomes rock hard. I would imagine that Championship Bermuda was out of the question as they get too much traffic to maintain it.
I will be interested to see what they do with the bunkers. My problem with the bunker is that they had hellacious lips and it was very easy to have a buried lie up against the lip. While it makes for a more difficult course, I think it causes people to frown upon the course. And some of those lips can be hazardous to try and hit out of. The real bad ones are are #4, #6 and #7. If I were them, I would just take out the front bunkers on #4 anyway. The hole is difficult to begin with and it slows up play too much if you're in that front bunker. Furthermore, I don't think it's an easy chip shot out of the rough if you are anywhere around that green.
I am glad to see that they are re-doing the tee boxes.
One of my pet peeves and every designer seems to fall into this, is small tee box areas. Small tee boxes are just too difficult to maintain. Even if it's on a par-4 or a par-5, the traffic will tear up the tee box. Plus, you will have golfers that chunk one with the driver or slam their driver into the tee after a bad tee shot. Tee boxes should be moved around all of the time (another pet peeve), but you can't do it if the tee box is small. And every RTJ design I've played features a lot of small tee boxes. There are tiny tee boxes on #1, #2, #4, #5, #7, #12 and #15.
I've heard that they are tearing down the dead oak tree on the left of the 10th hole. I tend to think that from a design perspective, there's nothing wrong with it. However, it's not a very appealing tree to look at. It will make the hole much easier.
The course plans to re-open in November. I doubt I will play it when it re-opens because they charge a fairly high green fee. But, I think if they can make the right changes and with the TifEagle on the greens, they can restore this course back into one of the top courses in Orlando.
3JACK
I know some people that read the blog have played Metrowest in Orlando since it's a fairly popular course. I always take interest in 'what I would do if I could renovate a course and had the money to do so.' It's pretty much an obsession of mine.
Anyway, Metrowest is going thru a $1.5 million renovation. Furthermore, they are showing YouTube videos of their course renovation.
You can see it at neworlandogolf.com/
I generally like Metrowest even though I've never played a good round there. I came close one time, shooting -2 on the front nine and then we got held back as a 2-some on the back nine and it took us 2:45 to play the back nine (tooks us 1:15 to play the front). I crapped out from there.
Metrowest is a Robert Trent Jones design and that's probably one of the reasons why I am fond of it as I grew up playing a lot of different RTJ designs in New York. RTJ went to Cornell so he is a very popular designer in Central New York. And even though this is in Orlando, it comes off as your typical RTJ design as Metrowest is probably the hilliest part inside the Orlando city limits. In fact, the tee on #13 is supposedly the highest point in Orlando.
Metrowest will be reshaping some of the greens. I don't recall a major problem with the shape of the greens. But, they are also switching to a TifEagle on the greens. I believe they had TifDwarf before. I'm a much bigger fan of TifEagle. It's much more durable and consistently provides a smoother surface, even in high traffic courses. The problem some people have with TifEagle is that you really can't go more than 10.5 on the stimpmeter. You can easily go 12 on the stimp on TifDwarf, but the grass is too inconsistent, it doesn't handle traffic well and it often times becomes rock hard. I would imagine that Championship Bermuda was out of the question as they get too much traffic to maintain it.
I will be interested to see what they do with the bunkers. My problem with the bunker is that they had hellacious lips and it was very easy to have a buried lie up against the lip. While it makes for a more difficult course, I think it causes people to frown upon the course. And some of those lips can be hazardous to try and hit out of. The real bad ones are are #4, #6 and #7. If I were them, I would just take out the front bunkers on #4 anyway. The hole is difficult to begin with and it slows up play too much if you're in that front bunker. Furthermore, I don't think it's an easy chip shot out of the rough if you are anywhere around that green.
I am glad to see that they are re-doing the tee boxes.
One of my pet peeves and every designer seems to fall into this, is small tee box areas. Small tee boxes are just too difficult to maintain. Even if it's on a par-4 or a par-5, the traffic will tear up the tee box. Plus, you will have golfers that chunk one with the driver or slam their driver into the tee after a bad tee shot. Tee boxes should be moved around all of the time (another pet peeve), but you can't do it if the tee box is small. And every RTJ design I've played features a lot of small tee boxes. There are tiny tee boxes on #1, #2, #4, #5, #7, #12 and #15.
I've heard that they are tearing down the dead oak tree on the left of the 10th hole. I tend to think that from a design perspective, there's nothing wrong with it. However, it's not a very appealing tree to look at. It will make the hole much easier.
The course plans to re-open in November. I doubt I will play it when it re-opens because they charge a fairly high green fee. But, I think if they can make the right changes and with the TifEagle on the greens, they can restore this course back into one of the top courses in Orlando.
3JACK