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Post by secondary on Aug 18, 2010 18:57:27 GMT -5
Don't know where to put this exactly? I must be an idiot but I can't run the search option to pull up the older blog post about the rule of 12? I can find lot's of conversations about Rules and such, but.....can I get a little help finding that one again? I think I am ready to listen to reason and stop using my 58 for almost everything.
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Post by cloran on Aug 18, 2010 19:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by secondary on Aug 18, 2010 22:00:50 GMT -5
Thank you sir. That is appreciated, but what I meant was the blog post that Richie did that contained this vid segment in it? That was the search feature I couldn't figure out. But, thanks much, I still needed this one.
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Post by ioz on Aug 19, 2010 3:11:53 GMT -5
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Post by Richie3Jack on Aug 19, 2010 10:08:05 GMT -5
The big thing with the Rule of 12 is that it’s very effective, but you are going to have to practice it quite a bit first.
Typically I wind using wedges with the Rule of 12. Particularly when I was living in Atlanta because it’s hillier there, so you have more carry, which means a lesser club. In Orlando where it’s beautifully flat, I’ll use longer clubs from time to time, but the majority of the time it’s a wedge. I think I’ll keep some stats for 100 Rule of 12 chips just to see what clubs I used doing the Rule of 12. I figure it will take about 2-3 months.
Anyway, if you use a SW all of the time to chip, when you have to use a 7-iron under the Rule of 12, it takes a bit of practice to adjust. Also, you have to start accounting for the slope of the green, green speed and when you get in between clubs, etc.
The lies are important as well as if you have an uphill lie the ball will naturally carry further than you think it will. If the putting surface is flat, that will be okay because the ball will land a little softer and won’t roll as much. But if you have an uphill lie to chip from and face a downhill sloped green, you’re going to go way past the cup.
3JACK
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Post by secondary on Aug 19, 2010 11:15:22 GMT -5
I have never doubted that it is the way to go. I grew up in Chicago area and played mostly parkland courses. Bumb and run was just how it was done. Never thought about it. Now I am in Tucson most of the time and there aren't that many courses which are real flat around the greens. The big "problem" is that I read all the Utley stuff a few years ago when I was oppsessed with 1plane swings and such. I started practicing with just my 58 all the time. Like 3 or 4 times a week for about an hour each time. I got pretty good at it. Still the best part of my game actually. But this summer I was in the NW and played some great courses (still can't stop thinking about Circling Raven) and the Rule of 12 or what I consider a running shot, was the call most of the time. I hit some good ones, but like you said Rich, I blew alot by too. This last week back in Tucson I played somewhere new and there were several options to use, but my lack of practice at those shots scared me off. Thanks for the links again. Just trying to add some more shots to the quiver. You need them when you miss the green A LOT!
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 26, 2010 12:42:19 GMT -5
The big thing with the Rule of 12 is that it’s very effective, but you are going to have to practice it quite a bit first. Typically I wind using wedges with the Rule of 12. Particularly when I was living in Atlanta because it’s hillier there, so you have more carry, which means a lesser club. In Orlando where it’s beautifully flat, I’ll use longer clubs from time to time, but the majority of the time it’s a wedge. I think I’ll keep some stats for 100 Rule of 12 chips just to see what clubs I used doing the Rule of 12. I figure it will take about 2-3 months. Anyway, if you use a SW all of the time to chip, when you have to use a 7-iron under the Rule of 12, it takes a bit of practice to adjust. Also, you have to start accounting for the slope of the green, green speed and when you get in between clubs, etc. The lies are important as well as if you have an uphill lie the ball will naturally carry further than you think it will. If the putting surface is flat, that will be okay because the ball will land a little softer and won’t roll as much. But if you have an uphill lie to chip from and face a downhill sloped green, you’re going to go way past the cup. 3JACK [/quote Why does the ball carry farther on an uphill chip shot?
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Post by cloran on Aug 26, 2010 12:56:20 GMT -5
Uphill lie. Not just "uphill chip shot."
The ball will launch higher off an uphill lie and carry farther.
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