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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 24, 2010 20:17:20 GMT -5
David Orr's green reading 201 blew me away about the optical illusion of downhill putts on planar greens.
What else is out there that architects use to fool us???
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Post by Richie3Jack on Aug 24, 2010 20:34:56 GMT -5
Tee alignment. They'll aim a tee well right of the fairway and then you wonder why you push that drive over and over. I find it a bigger illusion on par-3's.
3JACK
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Post by cloran on Aug 24, 2010 20:44:38 GMT -5
False fronts on greens. Hate those bastards.
Large bunkers/hazard in front of green or landing area. It can draw your eye in and make you think the landing area is smaller than it really is.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 24, 2010 20:51:58 GMT -5
Good ones. What about the size of trees behind the green affecting depth perception?
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Post by jonnygrouville on Aug 24, 2010 23:15:40 GMT -5
Greenside bunkers that are not really greenside bunkers! A lot of traditional inland courses put bunkers about twenty yards short of the green. From the middle of the fairway, it might be 160, but the top of the bunker looks 140 and it looks like you only just have to get it over that. Tricky.
I've also played a course that had lots of ravines. Probably only ten yards from one side to another, but never felt comfortable over an approach shot all day.
Makes it tough to trust the numbers, but 'yardages don't lie'.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Aug 25, 2010 13:58:28 GMT -5
That's a good one, Johnny. Eastwood GC where I play has a bunch of those bunkers that look like a greenside bunker, but they are about 30-40 yards from the green. Throws off your depth perception. Also a pain when you flush a shot to a front pin and it just carries the bunker and you think it's perfect, only to notice you're not on the green.
3JACK
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Post by cloran on Aug 25, 2010 15:23:48 GMT -5
I too play a lot of courses with elevated tees and greens on par 3's over a gulley, or with the fairway and green on the same level with the space in the middle being lower... It always makes me think about adjusting the distance for slope, only to realize that there is none, lol.
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Post by nothere on Aug 25, 2010 19:23:54 GMT -5
It doesn't look like the driving range.
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Post by jamo on Oct 7, 2010 9:57:39 GMT -5
Sorry for ressuraceting an old thread but I thought the thing about greenside bunkers that aren't was spot on. I played a course called Long Island National, a links style course, and the 10th is a par 5 with water left. I hit a good drive and was thinking- just get it up close to the green with a hybrid, I'll take being in greenside bunker in two on a par 5 any day. I did exactly that, but I came to find that the bunker was actually about 70 yards away, which is a really awkward distance for a bunker shot.
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