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Post by cwdlaw223 on Sept 21, 2010 22:02:35 GMT -5
How do you play it? Assume slight elevation for the green from the ball in the fairway, pin is up on a tier (1-2 feet in height for the tier) with only 3 yards of green behind the pin (the tiered portion is 4 yards deep - green length totals 24 yards and 15 yards wide) and the green hold shots (moist but not wet).
If I throw a hard SW at the pin I risk going over. A GW or PW won't have enough roll if I land before the tier. A 9 or 8 iron seem hard to use to judge this carry distance.
Just hit the green and hope for a one putt?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Sept 22, 2010 9:51:28 GMT -5
Usually tiered greens mean that the getting to the green is easy (short hole), so the architect designs the tier to make the putting part of the hole hard.
First, I would consider where I don't want to miss the shot. If I don't want to miss long then I'm far more likely to try to hit it low and let it roll up to the green. If I don't want to miss short of the tier, then I'm more likely to fly it in.
Also, consider where you want your putt to be. From David Orr's putting research, the putt that most golfers are likely to make are uphill, right-to-left putts. So instead of worrying about getting it close, you may just want to leave yourself with a longer putt that is uphill and breaks right-to-left. So instead of going for the pin and hoping to get it inside 5 feet, which you may have say a 10% chance of doing. You may be better off trying to leave yourself with a 10 foot, uphill right-to-left putt that you can get the ball to about 70% of the time and then make the putt 60% of the time.
Typically though I would hit something low and run it up the tier because trying to carry stuff can be difficult. Especially on tiered greens because often once you get over the tier, the ball just takes off because the green then slopes away.
3JACK
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Sept 22, 2010 10:27:28 GMT -5
What club would you hit in my scenario to roll it towards the pin (given the greens are most and not rock hard)? If the green was rock hard the shot would be easy. My gut tells me to play for the middle with a GW (52*) and hope for a little roll but save par by not going over.
Also, how does the crown affect the putt? I understand planar greens under the aim point system, but the crown gives me conceptual problems with the amount of the break. If'm I'm on a side of the crown/zero line, will it break as much as a planar green?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Sept 22, 2010 11:43:12 GMT -5
I'd really have to see the shot to get a feel of what to hit. Probably take a club more, figure out where I want it to land.
I would definitely experiment with it on that hole if you ever get a day where there's nobody around.
Crown slopes I feel cause the putts to break a lot towards the end of the putt because you're initially hititng uphill.
3JACK
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