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Post by anthony on Nov 2, 2010 10:59:41 GMT -5
Hi ,
I used to be a tour cavity player, everything for me is the std tour cavity. 2004 taylormade cb was what I had been playing for couple years and before i play something similar.
I played great, and dread with it .
Till, my coach wanted me to change to AP1 Titleist. OK i did it .. kbs tour. for the first 2 months . I dreaded it , hated it . I felt my ball striking totally went south. I hated the game actually for 2 solid months. Im getting the hang of it now
but still,
It was too High launch low spin. I cannot even stick a 6 irons onto the green ( hard green by the way, i play a difficult course). coach say its the new groove , but anyway. I didnt have that problem with G15 with awt .
2nd problem is maybe too much bounce ..
3rd problem, distance control is a little streaky. I guess I'm not hitting it at the same spot consistently . Heck I dont really know where i am.. but i know im doing most heel shots . too upright?
Any suggestions?
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Post by mchepp on Nov 2, 2010 12:38:48 GMT -5
I think you should take a look at the shaft. I have a set of KBS Tour shafts and they seem to launch the ball higher than my Dynamic Gold shafts. With AP1 you can go to most pro shops and ask them to try out different shafts in an AP1 head. The shafts screw into the AP1 heads. Ask them to take a 5 iron out and try the DG.
For your reference I am comparing KBS Tour X versus Dynamic Golf X300 that I soft-stepped.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Nov 2, 2010 13:16:30 GMT -5
I'm anti CB (for the most part) and anti game improvement irons. There's a good book written by Michael Lavery called 'Whole Brain Power.' The book discusses the power of being ambidextrous and how anybody who has function on both sides can learn to become ambidextrous thru using his drills and such.
One thing the book goes into is how important penmanship is, but how our society has completely neglected it. And even the cursive writing that we use today is far different from what was used before the 20th century.
The reason why Lavery finds penmanship important is that it tests one's motor skills, especially if you write in cursive and are very neat in your cursive penmanship. Instead, it has gone by the wayside and when you stop testing your motor skills, they diminish over time.
I feel the same happens with today's CB and GI irons. Take a look at the differences between today's CB and GI irons and blade style irons of yesteryear. The new irons are:
1. More upright (which is a design trick to make it harder to slice the ball and lose shots to the right)
2. Thicker soles and bigger bounce angles (so you do chunk it)
3. lower CoG (sweetspot) so the ball goes up higher more easily.
4. stronger lofts (combined with lower CoG makes the ball spin less and go longer)
5. bigger sweetspots so off center hits are harder to hit.
Essentially, you wind up not testing your skills that control the face, path and low point and if you don't test those skills, they start to erode as well. Some guys like Kenny Perry can do it and hit it well, but I think in genral CB's and GI's tend to lead to regression of one's golf swing.
3JACK
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Post by Richie3Jack on Nov 2, 2010 13:17:31 GMT -5
I think you should take a look at the shaft. I have a set of KBS Tour shafts and they seem to launch the ball higher than my Dynamic Gold shafts. With AP1 you can go to most pro shops and ask them to try out different shafts in an AP1 head. The shafts screw into the AP1 heads. Ask them to take a 5 iron out and try the DG. For your reference I am comparing KBS Tour X versus Dynamic Golf X300 that I soft-stepped. KBS shafts will launch higher than DG. DG is meant for a more lower and boring flight, KBS is meant for much higher flights. 3JACK |
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Post by anthony on Nov 4, 2010 21:16:35 GMT -5
that means,
time to go back to my player irons?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Nov 5, 2010 7:59:33 GMT -5
that means, time to go back to my player irons? What I would do is get some old, vintage muscleback blades off of ebay for $50-$100. I would only pay up to $100 if the grips are in good shape (as well as the clubs being in good shape). I would then just practice and play casual rounds of golf with the vintage blades. Anything that is important to you, play the player CB's. As golfers, we need to focus *less* on the *result* and more on the mechanics and development of those mechanics. And there is always going to be some timing involved, so your timing will improve with muscleback blades as well. I think the show Sports Science had an episode to see if a MLB player could hit a professional cricket pitcher. About 15 minutes into it, the MLB player understood some basic concepts and started hitting shots that were incredible on the cricket level. Was he a 'natural born cricket player?' Of course not. But the difference in hitting a baseball with a baseball bat and hitting a cricket ball with a cricket 'paddle' are 2 different things and he basically had trained himself so well for years that hitting a ball in cricket became a piece of cake. Feel free to ask me about any vintage muscleback blades you have in mind. Personally I prefer: Hogan Wilson Staff MacGregor Founders Club (200 Series only) Powerbilt Ram FX Tour Grind Titleist 3JACK |
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