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Post by natep on Nov 25, 2010 16:12:10 GMT -5
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Post by jra1945 on Nov 25, 2010 17:57:59 GMT -5
They are either 58s or 59s. With three rings on the top of the hosel, their 58s. But if the hosel marking is thached looking, their 59s. Neither model had a name.
jim from charlotte
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Post by natep on Nov 25, 2010 18:04:30 GMT -5
Thanks, Jim!
These are thatched looking on the hosel, so 59's.
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Post by bentshaft on Nov 25, 2010 19:06:15 GMT -5
wow---I saw the question and absolutely knew I would have the answer!!
LOL I had no clue...thanks Jim
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Post by cloran on Dec 8, 2010 9:38:42 GMT -5
I'm a little late to this... but...
They are often called "Sunburst" and sometimes "Saber" irons. They are a later incarnation of the very first set of irons Hogan produced... the "PRECISION" irons. He later remade them (1982) and replaced "PRECISION" with "PERSONAL" on the back of the heads.
You can't find a set of the "PERSONAL" irons for under $1,000 if that tells you anything.
The Mizuno MP 29's are pretty much a rip off of this design and considered by some to be the best Mizuno heads ever produced.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Dec 8, 2010 9:58:56 GMT -5
Thanks, Cloran.
The Personal irons came in a box set. Back then, the major OEM's went over the top when it came to customers who were willing to purchase high end equipment. MacGregor used to have a setup like they do at Scratch Golf (and I'm pretty sure that Scratch got their idea from MacGregor). You used to be able to go to the MacGregor headquarters if you wanted to and get your own custom clubs grinded and virtually designed the way you wanted to. In fact, I think they would put you up in a hotel for free.
About a month ago I spoke to a buddy of mine who I hadn't talked to in roughly ten years. He's about 7 years older than I am and played at East Carolina and was a top junior golfer. He had a set of MacGregors that were the nicest set of blades I'd ever seen. They looked like Muirfields, but they didn't have the diamonds on each end of the grooves and they didn't say Muirfield on the back, just had the Jack Nicklaus signature on the back with the MacGregor name on the sole. And they were a little bigger, but not too big than your typical Muirfield blade. He used those irons for roughly 15 years and hit balls like a mad man.
He would switch to other irons, but always found himself coming back to the Muifields. Afterwards, the sweetspot was just done with and the grooves were worn, so he sold them.
When I spoke to him I asked about those irons and he said that him and his grandfather flew down to Georgia to get that set made for him. But it goes to show you the quality that was back with top line irons then.
Hogan was the same way. I believe the box set of Personels came with a certificate of authentication and a letter from the man himself.
With that, many golfers just bought the Personels for collecting purposes, so usually the Personals are brand new and can't be found for under $1K. Occasionally you'll see some slightly used Personals, but they still go for $800 or so.
The Mizuno TN-87's were designed very much in the style of the Personals. They were designed by Tommy Nakajima (hence the 'TN'). They were the precursor to the MP-29's. The MP-29's were made famous by Nick Faldo using them (and later on Tiger Woods' irons of choice when he was in college).
The MP-29's are a little more of a square toe than the MP-14's, and they have stronger lofts and a slightly thinner sole and top line. The MP-14's were more forgiving and for whatever reason, cheaper and that's what drew the MP-14's to such popularity over the MP-29's.
3JACK
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Post by Richie3Jack on Dec 9, 2010 10:39:53 GMT -5
Here's a look at a pic of the Hogan Personals for sale on Ebay  And here's the Mizuno TN-87  3JACK |
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 9, 2010 10:55:37 GMT -5
Man those are sweeeeeeet!
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Post by cloran on Dec 9, 2010 13:49:04 GMT -5
I think I like the square toe on the 87s better, but both sets are just sick looking.
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