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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 18, 2010 11:29:30 GMT -5
  Nice 2-PW (Equalizer) Hogan Redlines. cgi.ebay.com/HOGAN-APEX-IRONS-2-E-BLADES-WITH-RED-LINE-NICE_W0QQitemZ160395666529QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGolf_Clubs?hash=item255853a461Starting bid is $65, no reserve. I was thinking in perhaps 2011 of getting a set of vintage Hogan irons each month (you can do it on eBay for less than $50) and the Redlines would be one of the sets I would start with. IMO, this was the last great iron design and forging from the Hogan company. Almost all of the irons pre-1990 are quite good. Even the Apex Edge irons that I have a friend that still uses them and loves them today. I would just stay away from the Radials (no small wonder why eBay is filled with Radials for sale) and anything else that isn't a forged blade. Some of my favorite Hogan lines are: Apex PC Personals ('83) Bounce Sole 1+ Bounce Sole Plus-One '67 Percussions Power Thrust III IPT Original Apex Apex II (white cameo) '83 Medallions 3JACK |
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Post by pavaveda on Jan 29, 2010 15:30:34 GMT -5
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 29, 2010 16:56:28 GMT -5
Those are really nice, but I'll probably put a hold on Hogan irons for now unless there's a good deal on the Bounce Sole 1+ irons. I may get a persimmon driver soon as well for practice purposes.
3JACK
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Post by pavaveda on Feb 2, 2010 16:02:30 GMT -5
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 2, 2010 16:09:21 GMT -5
I had the Apex 4 shafts tested in some Hogans I had and they were 7.1! |
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Post by pavaveda on Feb 2, 2010 17:31:53 GMT -5
I had the Apex 4 shafts tested in some Hogans I had and they were 7.1! What do you mean by 7.1? |
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 2, 2010 20:25:11 GMT -5
The shafts measure a 7.1 on the Rifle standard of shaft stiffness. 7.1 is super stiff. I have to jot my memory here, but years ago I had 6.5 Rifles thinking that 6.5 was X-Stiff. When we frequency matched them I was told that 300 revolutions was considered 'stiff'. And that 310 was considered X-stiff. The good news was the frequency matching for these Rifles I had were extremely good. The bad news is that 6.5 measure at 325-327 revolutions. Super stiff. So 7.1 is like a tree trunk.
3JACK
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Post by pavaveda on Feb 2, 2010 21:38:59 GMT -5
Interesting because I was lead to believe from this post over at ABS that Apex 4's were lighter and softer than DG S300's. |
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 2, 2010 23:23:25 GMT -5
One issue is that sometimes the Quality Control isn't up to snuff. The old frequency matched rifles had an extremely tight dispersion on their shaft frequency. Like I said with the 6.5 shafts I had, every one of them measured a frequency of 325-327. However, I had some DG X100's and they were all over the place.
I had a Callaway driver and 3-wood in college with stock graphite shafts that were suppoed to be X-stiff. The 3-wood, which I hit great, measured out fine. But the driver, which I struggled with, measured out to be a LADY'S STIFF FLEX. I have pretty much eschewed everything Callaway ever since.
So the Apex 4's may not have the QC. I thought I read somewhere that the Apex 4's were quite stiff...the Apex's 3 played like S200 and the Apex 5 was mega-stiff. I'll see if I can find that somewhere.
3JACK
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Post by gmbtempe on Feb 8, 2010 15:19:26 GMT -5
I thought the Apex shaft scale was 1 being the most flex and 5 being the stiffest? They don't have shaft bands and when my dad gave them to me, which he got from a friend, he said they were Apex 4.
I also wonder if shafts tend to change over time? I have hit 6.5 rifles, not easy for me but I played a season with them and in comparison the Hogans are much stiffer feeling to me. The fact they measured 7.1 only confirmed my feel.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 8, 2010 16:48:45 GMT -5
I know Lag plays with extra stiff shafts that are tipped 1/2" which would probably make them around a 7.0 or so. So an Apex 4 may be very stiff, but not stiff by their standards. Plus, I don't think the QC on golf shafts was all that great back then.
3JACK
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Post by golfbaka on Feb 15, 2010 12:42:58 GMT -5
Just won some Apex Redlines on ebay.co.uk 2 iron to sand wedge for £51! Not cheap by US standards but hey...
Unfortunatley gotta wait until buy birthday to try them (mad agreement I had with my other half!)
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 15, 2010 12:51:41 GMT -5
You'll like them. I hit them a few months ago. Hogan forgings pre-1990 were just as good, if not better than Mizuno or Miura. I have yet to try Scratch Golf irons yet.
3JACK
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