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Post by cwdlaw223 on Mar 23, 2011 10:03:12 GMT -5
Has anyone tried this?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Mar 23, 2011 10:13:33 GMT -5
I saw this (IIRC) at the PGA Merchandise Show. It is what it is....another training aid that believes that the perfect stroke will mean more putts made, which really isn't true at all. And that if you practice with it enough, you will too have the perfect stroke, which I don't believe will really happen.
3JACK
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Mar 23, 2011 10:23:09 GMT -5
3JACK -
I need to believe that such a stroke exists and some device out there will allow me to own this stroke without much work!!!! (just kidding - somewhat / I'm a sucker for a golf device). The device looks interesting and probably would help a fair amount of people feel a different stroke. I think this device would be great on an indoor surface with no break to help groove a stroke.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Mar 23, 2011 10:31:29 GMT -5
That's the problem. You spend all of your time grooving a stroke and it really doesn't help you sink more putts and 3jack (pun intended) less. Spend your time more on how to use your rhythm and tempo in the stroke to get the proper speed, get a putter that helps you aim correctly and learn how to properly read greens and you'll be a far better putter. You could probably do that for all of $750 (AimPoint clinics, Edel Putter, Reality of Putting DVD) and be far better off...and you won't be buying a new putter every year.
Oh yeah, and understand my statistical golf work...which is free, and then you really start to understand the game and 'scoring' and what you need to do to compete with the Tour guys or the great amateurs.
3JACK
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Mar 23, 2011 11:05:35 GMT -5
I want it easy without having to work for it like most Americans!!!!
Whenever I try to game plan for a course it never works out and I focus too much on score rather than staying in the present. Sure I want to know hidden danger, but so much changes when I'm on a course that I've often found it's hard to game plan for how I'm swinging that day. Maybe this is an excuse and I'm playing too much by feel, but I've found that I become too focused on score when I excessively game plan. This does not apply when it comes to green mapping. I would rather know everything about a green then just rely on my eyesight and feel.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Mar 23, 2011 12:17:32 GMT -5
Worrying about score too much is a problem for just about every golfer. I prefer to think more about the process than the result. Worrying more about hitting GIR's and not 3-putting and not making double bogeys.
Now that I understand 'scoring' from a statistical standpoint and the importance of the Danger Zone, I add Danger Zone performance and factor that in as well. I understand that if I'm 190 yards away, even with a shot in the fairway from a good lie to a wide open green, chances are I'm not going to flag it. So I'm better off focusing on making solid contact and hitting the fat of the green and if I miss...miss in a place I can get up and down from.
When I finally understood that, the game made a lot more sense to me. For instance, last Friday I played Eastwood and was +4 thru 12 and really didn't feel like I was hitting it all that bad. And I just got done on #12, hitting a 3-hybrid from 210 yards into the wind and hitting it well and just pushing it a tad and missing the green to the right. I had really almost zero chance of getting up and down from there.
In the past I probably would've thought I was scoring poorly because 'I can't putt' or 'I'm just not that good' or 'I need to work on my short game.' But finally I understood that I had performed poorly from the Danger Zone and when you miss greens from the Danger Zone, it's likely you'll have a difficult up and down. Miss with an 8-iron, you can probably have an easy enough up and down.
So on Friday, after the 12th hole, it wasn't that overall I was hitting the ball poorly, but I was doing poorly from where it really counts...the Danger Zone. I then flagged a 175 yard Danger Zone shot to 5-feet and made birdie and then made an incredible eagle on #16 which were huge scoring 'boosts.' Then I birdied #17 (PW into the green) and par #18 and came out with even par.
It really takes no more work than what you do now, IMO. Let's say you put in 3 hours a week of practice on the range, I would suggest that you take the time you put in towards hitting clubs that are not used in the Danger Zone and use that to practice with clubs you use in the Danger Zone. Or perhaps cut down on practice around the green and work on more long irons.
As far as the Mangum stuff, I found it really easy to implement. Probably not as consistent as I would like, but there's a large improvement. And green reading really doesn't take a lot of time, you just need to know how to do it.
The problem I see with golfers isn't so much that they have to put work in and they don't want to put work in. It's that they need to focus their practice on the right things. Obviously, you can get better if you put more work into it, but I also think the person who practices less but has it focused on the right things will do better than the range rat who focuses on the wrong or unimportant things.
3JACK
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