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Post by anthony on Oct 3, 2011 9:10:22 GMT -5
Basically , this changed me from a totally terible putter to a pretty good one ..
All myth debunk ..
1. Putt with an inside out stroke while face of putter face intended line . This is totally HUGE for me .. My coach tried to get me to do it ... But my thich skull still think straight path ..
2. Wrist moves , left wrist breaks after putt adding loft .. Another great piece for solid fluid contacts .another Huge one for me . I never need my long putter no more ...
3. Arms stays close to body, elbow level, body tilt right ..
Did this help anybody before ??..
Basically , this changed me from a totally terible putter to a pretty good one ..
All myth debunk ..
1. Putt with an inside out stroke while face of putter face intended line . This is totally HUGE for me .. My coach tried to get me to do it ... But my thich skull still think straight path ..
2. Wrist moves , left wrist breaks after putt adding loft .. Another great piece for solid fluid contacts .another Huge one for me . I never need my long putter no more ...
3. Arms stays close to body, elbow level, body tilt right ..
Did this help anybody before ??..
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 3, 2011 9:40:41 GMT -5
Just to clarify, the stroke isn't really 'inside-to-out.'
It's an arced backstroke. Then it arcs back to impact. Then it goes straight down the target line in the follow thru. Almost a hybrid arc-straight thru stroke. Mangum talks about it in his 'Reality of Putting' DVD as well. I found it helpful, too.
The other stuff I haven't really worked with.
I think putting mechanics have their importance, although I mostly focus on speed/touch and then use AimPoint to help me with the green read and the speed/touch. The big part of mechanics for me is not de-lofting the putter and the rhythm of the stroke.
De-lofting the putter just 'deadens' the roll of the ball for me. And one thing I agree wholeheartedly with the Karlssen and Nilssen studies is that there's a tendency to have too slow of a thru stroke. I used to do that, now I don't and that helped me a lot.
3JACK
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Post by anthony on Oct 3, 2011 9:52:46 GMT -5
Yes .. Its an arc ..your right .. Pardon my interpretition ..
I didn't get the part about delofting and slow through stroke ..
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 3, 2011 10:16:54 GMT -5
De-lofting comes from too much shaft lean. That can be the result of a few things, like the ball too far back in my stance. When the ball is putted, it initially gets ever so slightly airborne. If you don't have enough loft, the ball...to me...feels like it immediately goes into the ground and just stops rolling rather quickly.
As far as the slow thru stroke goes.
Basically, you want the the speed of your stroke to be the same back as the same thru. A couple of European researches did a study to help determine what the amount of time that it should take to make a thru stroke. They gave a range, which I can't recall off the top of my head...in milliseconds.
They stated that they found the best putts should have a thru-stroke that is within that time range.
In their study, I think they only found 1 golfer that had a thru stroke that was faster than that range. However, they found many golfers that had a thrustroke that was slower than that time range.
I used to do that as well. I would get too slow on the thru stroke. I think it was in order to 'be careful' when I was putting. But, it was completely disturbing the rhythm of my stroke and making it more difficult for me to have the proper speed/touch on the greens.
3JACK
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Post by anthony on Oct 3, 2011 10:54:56 GMT -5
Thank You for the wonderful explanation as always ,
That means the putterhead need to release right ?.. For me at this moment, any shortgame pitches to putting .. Wrist and arms need to keep moving to let the head flows.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 3, 2011 11:59:06 GMT -5
As Geoff Mangum has said, all that really matters is that the face is square to the target at impact and about 1-3 inches post impact. The rest is window dressing.
3JACK
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Oct 3, 2011 12:43:19 GMT -5
As Geoff Mangum has said, all that really matters is that the face is square to the target at impact and about 1-3 inches post impact. The rest is window dressing. 3JACK How does post-impact have anything to do with the ball? To ensure the face is delivered properly? |
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 3, 2011 13:01:24 GMT -5
As Geoff Mangum has said, all that really matters is that the face is square to the target at impact and about 1-3 inches post impact. The rest is window dressing. 3JACK How does post-impact have anything to do with the ball? To ensure the face is delivered properly? Probably. Much like rate of closure in the full swing. Plus, the ball actually goes more towards the direction of the face at maximum deformation, know at impact. Nit picky, but more detailed the better. 3JACK |
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