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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 17, 2010 20:51:07 GMT -5
Other than reading message boards, watching a couple youtube vids, two chapters from Pelz's book I have never made an attempt to improve my putting. It was the part of the game I have always been pretty good at, I have good feel and speed so I make my share.
It seems like to take it to the next level of scoring I need to get better inside of 10'. That means getting close to the percentages of makes from 3', 3'-6', and 6' to 10'.
I know the puttingzone has a book and David Orr has some good videos but where do I start?
I use a arc type stroke and I am more of a Stricker type meaning I don't usually have a short accelerating stroke, I use gravity more than force.
Any books that would be a good start? I am thinking of getting a Boomerang mat and a Putting Arc?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 17, 2010 20:58:39 GMT -5
I think reading Orr's forum is very important. I like Mangum's 'Optimal Putting' book, but it's a difficult read and I don't think many golfers have the patience to read it and understand it.
I believe the best place to start is getting David's Green Reading 101 and Green Reading 201 videos. If you think about it, it's really the first step when you go to putt on a golf course...you have to read the green first so you know where you want to aim and how fast the green is, etc.
From there, I'd try to get some time on a SAM Puttlab. If anything, you really want to make sure that your stroke 'matches.' When I did the SAM Puttlab, I had an arced backstroke, but more of a SBST thru stroke. So I made my backstroke more SBST and just kept the thru stroke almost the same.
3JACK
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Post by fearlessgolfer on Jan 18, 2010 9:47:19 GMT -5
I think reading Orr's forum is very important. I like Mangum's 'Optimal Putting' book, but it's a difficult read and I don't think many golfers have the patience to read it and understand it. I believe the best place to start is getting David's Green Reading 101 and Green Reading 201 videos. If you think about it, it's really the first step when you go to putt on a golf course...you have to read the green first so you know where you want to aim and how fast the green is, etc. From there, I'd try to get some time on a SAM Puttlab. If anything, you really want to make sure that your stroke 'matches.' When I did the SAM Puttlab, I had an arced backstroke, but more of a SBST thru stroke. So I made my backstroke more SBST and just kept the thru stroke almost the same. 3JACK Richie, how much did it help U to match your Back n thru stroke? Was it immediate result or more conceptual? Or, did it make it worse for a while, or still? LOL
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 18, 2010 11:39:21 GMT -5
I think reading Orr's forum is very important. I like Mangum's 'Optimal Putting' book, but it's a difficult read and I don't think many golfers have the patience to read it and understand it. I believe the best place to start is getting David's Green Reading 101 and Green Reading 201 videos. If you think about it, it's really the first step when you go to putt on a golf course...you have to read the green first so you know where you want to aim and how fast the green is, etc. From there, I'd try to get some time on a SAM Puttlab. If anything, you really want to make sure that your stroke 'matches.' When I did the SAM Puttlab, I had an arced backstroke, but more of a SBST thru stroke. So I made my backstroke more SBST and just kept the thru stroke almost the same. 3JACK I had never thought of arced back and SBST thru. I would say I probably do that, I never feel like the there is a release of the putter head through the ball. I usually am trying to hit my spot more than thinking about a stroke.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 18, 2010 13:27:09 GMT -5
Richie, how much did it help U to match your Back n thru stroke? Was it immediate result or more conceptual? Or, did it make it worse for a while, or still? LOL It helped quite a bit. I guess you can look at it in the same sense of 'hitting' and 'swinging.' You basically want things to match. If you have virtually no arc in the thru stroke, then you really don't have an arced stroke. I don't think there's a true SBST technique out there, but essentially I just want come close and 'minimize' the arc. I think if anything, it's helped me more on shorter putts and putting a better roll on the ball. One that that has really helped me lately was a post David made over at his forum. I try and treat putts now in a similar sense if I was throwing a baseball and playing catch with another person. Being a former HS baseball pitcher, if the catcher called for a fastball on the outside corner, I really wasn't thinking much about mechanics and instead I would just grip the ball like a 2-seamer and throw it at where his mitt was located. The same when you are playing catch. If a person is 10 feet away from me and holds their glove up high, I'm just aiming for the glove and I can almst automtically feel how hard I have to throw it. If they stand 60 feet away then I just have to feel throwing it harder to get the ball to them. It's more instinct than mechanics and while I think the AimCharts are great, I basically can now just look at the number, and feel where I need to aim and what type of speed I need on the putt. I think that's one of the biggest things Mangum and Orr teach, using your instincts and feel instead of getting bogged down on mechanics and making the 'perfect stroke.' Geoff has some great, free YouTube vids that can be found here. www.youtube.com/user/geoffmangumThe 'Mt. Fuji Eye' really doesn't work for me since I'm right handed but left eye dominant. 3JACK
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