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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 2, 2012 16:06:45 GMT -5
I really can't give out that information because I don't think Wishon and company want people blurting that information to everybody.
3JACK
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 16, 2012 10:47:59 GMT -5
I have an Excel Spreadsheet of the bend profile, weight, flex and torque numbers for Cleveland Golf's shafts that they offer in their woods. There's 112 shafts on the spreadsheet and shafts from Aldila, Fujikura, Graphite Design, etc.
The only thing is that it uses Cleveland Golf/Miyazaki's 'International Flex Code' for the bend profile numbers. But, since it's determined by the same company and there are a bunch of different shaft companies and their models, I thought some people would be interested.
If you're interested, e-mail me at Richie3Jack@yahoo.com
If you can host the spreadsheet on a Web site of yours, that would be great as well.
3JACK
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Post by cloran on Feb 27, 2012 9:24:44 GMT -5
I wonder how the software matches up pwith the Maltby system in the catalog (MPF Rating). It categorizes shafts based on their profile, launch characteristics, etc.
Like a "poor-man's shaft bend software."
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 27, 2012 15:40:39 GMT -5
Wishon's has the frequency readings at 5 different points of the shaft, the weight, balance point, etc. You can then filter certain characteristics if you're looking for a certain frequency or swing speed it is meant for as well as find shafts with bend profiles within a certain percent of each other.
3JACK
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 28, 2012 13:01:20 GMT -5
Wishon says he will have a software update in March. That will include every Project X wood and iron shaft, the Aldila RIPs and others.
Can't wait.
3JACK
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Post by cloran on Feb 28, 2012 16:22:30 GMT -5
talamonti?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Feb 28, 2012 16:37:49 GMT -5
Don't know, yet.
I did recommend that they test it.
3JACK
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Post by 94monarch on Feb 28, 2012 19:21:02 GMT -5
I dont play much anymore but I did locate four uncut still in the bag ProForce shafts (remember the old yellow and purple ones) this winter I am dropping into something. I am kinda looking forward to that. I may download the software just to see what the specs are on the stuff I used and liked.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Apr 26, 2012 7:22:35 GMT -5
According to Wishon's latest eTech newsletter, the update should be happening soon, with 400 new shafts added. The new ones added will be from Accra, Aldila, Arthur Extreme Engineering, Grafalloy, Graphite Design, Harrison, G. Loomis, Mitsubishi, Miyazaki, Nippon, N-Ventix, Oban, Rifle, SK Fiber, True Temper and UST. Also, he will be adding a bunch of OEM stock shafts as well. Furthermore, another update will happen this summer.
3JACK
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Post by cloran on Apr 26, 2012 11:43:32 GMT -5
Q:
Is there a way to adjust for hard/soft stepping... or a way to enter trim data (hu-hu-hu, Beavis, you said "trim data"...) into the spreadsheets? Without a frequency analyzer I wonder how you'd look up something like my hardstepped S400... or the Talimonti driver shaft I have that's trimmed an extra 1/2".
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Post by Richie3Jack on Apr 26, 2012 12:02:41 GMT -5
It would not be in the software. There may be a formula to figure out what the effective stiffness would be on tip trimmed shafts.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jun 21, 2012 11:41:32 GMT -5
Wishon has a fantastic piece on shafts and shaft bend profile software in his June 2012 eTech Report. I don't want to give it away since it has some shaft bend profile data that he may consider 'sensitive.' But, if you can get the eTech report e-mailed to you, it's worth the read.
3JACK
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Post by MattF on Jun 23, 2012 10:35:16 GMT -5
Wishon has a fantastic piece on shafts and shaft bend profile software in his June 2012 eTech Report. I don't want to give it away since it has some shaft bend profile data that he may consider 'sensitive.' But, if you can get the eTech report e-mailed to you, it's worth the read. Hi, June E-tech from Tom Wishon is readable on his website, in the E-tech section : wishongolf.com/etech/archive/2012-2/june-2012/Another awesome article I would have been interested to know how torque (or torsionnal stifness) plays a role in shaft feeling, and how to deal with it during fitting. What is your point of view?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jun 24, 2012 6:43:10 GMT -5
I think the problem with torque is that I've been told there are different ways to measure it, which may produce different torque numbers. But, if the shafts were measured for torque the same way, they would produce the same number. So 1 shaft may have a torque of 3.8* and another of 2.8*, but in reality they have the same torque...just measured in a different way.
I also think...and I could be completely wrong with this, is that the torque give an indication of butt stiffness. I know I play best with a 'stiff' butt section and a 'X-Stiff' tip section. Unfortunately, the UST VTS shafts I use are not in the shaft bend profile software database, yet. But, they have a driver torque of 4.0* and a 3-wood torque of 4.5* which are high torques (UST Mamiya designed them with high torque). I believe that it's really just a shaft labeled X-Stiff with a stiff butt section and X-Stiff tip section.
The other shaft I have in a driver, that I don't hit nearly as well, is an X-Stiff Aldila RIP Beta shaft with a torque of 3.2*. That is in the database software. I have measured that against some shafts I find somewhat similar to my UST VTS shaft. And that Aldila RIP Beta shaft comes out with a similar tip section (X-Stiff), but an X-Stiff butt section. And that's why it feels a little too stiff for me.
3JACK
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