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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 15, 2012 12:11:43 GMT -5
Nah, I think the talent is there, but they just don't capitalize on critical opportunities. I'm not impressed with the pass rush, though. When it's the same song of not capitalizing on opportunities, year after year, I think one has to consider that they may not be as talented as they appear. I think the O-Line performance against Baltimore is just a mirage and if Carolina has a decent run defense, they'll look like the '85 Bears against the Dallas O-Line next week. I have officially become nervous about RGIII. Not necessarily DEFCON 1, but definitely DEFCON 3 and heading into DEFCON 2. I think he's a bit of a quirky style of QB, but I think it's incredibly effective and I question how well defenses will figure out how to gameplan against him since it's an incredibly effective, yet safe passing attack. I still wonder if RGIII can take the hits and how much of a defense he'll have to help him out. But if a few pieces gel together, I could see the Redskins being tough for years to come. 3JACK
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Post by kamandi on Oct 16, 2012 3:22:34 GMT -5
To me, RGIII's strength is his ability to block out everything, and focus purely on executing a play. There is no indecisiveness on his part, even if the play failed before. He looks like he trusts that if he continues to execute the system, they will succeed. I see those same traits in Rodgers and Brady. Shanahan, for his part, designs plays with clearly defined reads ... he'll use his players to force the defense to make a decision, and the QBs reads become simplified. Kubiak does the same thing with the Texans. I don't think RGIII can read defenses the way Peyton or Luck can, but in this system, he doesn't really need to. If I were coaching the Eagles, that's the system I'd use with Vick. Don't try to turn him into Peyton, although Reid's done a great job teaching him the QB position. Right now, I hate the Eagle's OL schemes. They're allowing some defenders to get through, and a successful pass play would be one where Vick completes a pass before those defenders reach him. Even in successful plays, though, Vick will get hit, and those have a cumulative effect on his performance and his psyche. Martz used to love doing that to Cutler, too. Luckily for Cutler, the priority is now to protect the QB.
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Post by kamandi on Oct 17, 2012 12:24:23 GMT -5
Well, Holmgren's gone from the Browns. I was a big Holmgren fan, but he's done a terrible job at Cleveland. No matter how bad you think your team is doing, you can always be thankful that your not a Browns fan.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 17, 2012 13:00:53 GMT -5
I thought Holmgren built the Browns the same way he built the Seahawks and Packers. The problem was that he wasn't coaching them. WCO offense that features a star tailback and looking for a cheaper altnerative to getting a franchise QB...all there.
I don't think Weeden is all that bad, but his age is a concern. I think missing out on RG3 sealed Holmgren's fate, but what the Skins gave up to move up would have been a difficult move for any GM.
Unfortunately, I do not see a lot of good head coaching prospects out there for the Browns.
3JACK
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Oct 17, 2012 20:33:12 GMT -5
Andy Reid. You're blinded by the flight of the Eagles there Richie!!!
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Oct 17, 2012 20:33:55 GMT -5
I couldn't resist. Football depression right now. Feel like a Browns fan (seriously).
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Post by kamandi on Oct 17, 2012 20:58:15 GMT -5
I've said it before, and I'll say it again .... What could have possessed Andy Reid to hand over his defense to an offensive line coach?
Unless the Eagles make the playoffs, I don't see Reid with the Eagles next season.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Oct 18, 2012 6:46:15 GMT -5
Reid is toast. He'll be fired before the season is over. How Tampa Bay and the Saints have a SB ring before the Eagles in my lifetime is depressing.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Oct 18, 2012 9:47:37 GMT -5
The typical mind of an Eagles fan is delusional and filled with fantasy. We have no real post season success and yet every year we truly believe we'll win the SB (and crush Dallas). A fair amount of the fans are also violent and drunk at the games. It's embarrassing, but my reality. NY fans (exclude the Jets) are much more professional and satisfied. Philly is truly the armpit of NY. We think we're "all that" but we aren't.
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Post by kamandi on Oct 24, 2012 4:49:36 GMT -5
Wow, that was a scary hit by Suh on Cutler. Cutler said it was a clean hit, and that's just football. When further pressed, he said that some teams wrap up to tackle, while Detroit drives you into the ground; you have to expect it, and respect them for that.
The Bears downplay it, but now Suh has hit Cutler with a forearm to the back of the head, Suh's violently ripped off Culter's helmet while tackling him, and now used a wrestling leg sweep and all 307pounds to slam Cutler's shoulder area into the ground. Good thing Cutler tucked his shoulder in, and his ribbs absorbed most of the damage.
Everyone on the Bears squad, save for Marshall, say it was a clean, solid hit. Most other QBs would be toast.
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Post by kamandi on Oct 24, 2012 5:07:01 GMT -5
On another note, very gutty performance by RGIII against the Giants. He had an INT and a lost fumble, but he bounced back, kept his composure, and led the Redskins to what should have been the game winning drive, if his defense didn't have a brain fart.
The situation with the Redskins is unusual, in that the rookie is showing more poise and composure than an entire team of veterans.
Another dominating performance by the Bears defense that kept the Lions from scoring any points until about the last 2 minutes of the game. Tillman held the best WR in the game to 34 yards, and saved a TD by slapping CJ's forearm at the last second to dislodge the ball from his hands for an incompletion.
The Packers offense looks like a video game. Besides Rodgers, what makes it work so well is perfect coordination by the unit ... it's like a choreographed dance. The OL forces the rushers to flow in a certain direction, in order to keep an area of the pocket clean for Rodgers to step through, while the receivers do their breaks, and Rodgers just chooses which one to go to.
One mistake a lot of teams make with the Packers is that they give the receivers a cushion. Teams who've had success against the Packers would use the initial 5 yards to violently press/push/maul the receivers, and not allow them easy, free release, and force Rodgers to hold onto the ball just a little bit longer.
Mike McCarthy designs really great, subtle, and practical offensive plays, and they're all 2nd nature for Rodgers.
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Post by kamandi on Oct 24, 2012 6:59:06 GMT -5
I just heard about Sean Lee being out for the season; tough break. The Cowboys better have some good depth.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 24, 2012 7:40:55 GMT -5
Part of me is non-plussed about Lee getting hurt because at this rate, I don't see the team making the playoffs. Too many stupid players making stupid plays and stupid decisions.
A perfect example was in the Carolina game when on the 2nd to last play there was about 25 seconds left and the Panthers, with Cam Newton, have the ball at about their own 40. Spencer sacks Newton and decides to celebrate and is completely oblivious that there's plenty of time on the clock for Carolina to get 1 more play off. Finally somebody yells at him to get back and if the Carolina WR's didn't have to run go routes on the previous play, he would have been called for offsides. Just no awareness and sense of urgency on this team.
I will say that the one thing about Garrett that I like is that the players he has drafted and brought in seem to have good awareness and a sense of urgency. It's kind of ironic that so many of the veterans, both Parcells and Wade players, do not.
That being said, I think Garrett has got to go 8-8 for me to want to keep him around.
What sucks is Lee was one of the few players I really enjoyed watching play. He was smart, tough, athletic and played the game the way it should be played. I just hope the toe is alright for the future. Seemed like a freak occurance, of course you'll hear from Cowboys fans that he's 'injury prone.' Good grief.
3JACK
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Oct 24, 2012 9:23:51 GMT -5
He'll be fine. In one sense it's better that his turf toe was so bad it required surgery. Those injuries last forever if they don't require surgery. I suspect he'll be fine in 4-6 months. I also loved watch Sean Lee play and am somewhat surprised at how well he adapted to the pro game. PSU defensive lineman and running backs are great in college but suck in the pros. At least our linebackers produce in the pros.
The way O'Brien is coaching we will have a top 10 QB drafted within five years. That guy is amazing and is teaching a pro system that the pros can now look at our players and properly grade. McGloin's improvement is simply jaw dropping. The guy was horrible under Jay Paterno and now (might be) the best QB in the Big Ten. I thought McGloin was only a I-AA QB and now I sing his praises. He was coached up tremendously by O'Brien and his staff. Really good players will come to PSU because O'Brien will get the really good ones into the NFL. McGloin is now good enough to make a team in the CFL and if he keeps improving he might actually play after college. Garcia was a good QB who didn't have the physical tools but had a very nice post-college career. Not everyone is RG III or Luck. (Of course, there are plenty of Romos around!!!!! I had to take a shot Richie. It wouldn't be right if I didn't.)
If I were a Cowboys fan I would be pissed that each year Jerry Jones has the balls to do what's right on paper and he doesn't get production. That to me indicates bad coaching. Jerry is my favorite owner in the NFL because he isn't afraid to gamble or write big checks. I suspect Jerry might be a little too much hands on, however, he writes bigger checks than most owners and deserves some input. I love his passion and the new stadium. Cowboys should win a SuperBowl every 5 years given all they have as an organization.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Oct 24, 2012 9:42:02 GMT -5
When they drafted Lee in the 2nd round, they said they had him the 2nd highest rated Linebacker coming out of college in the *past 10 years*, only better rated ILB was Patrick Willis.
I respect Jerry in the same way I respect George Steinbrenner, both brilliant at the business side of promoting their teams.
Probably what aggravates me the most as a Yankees fan (yes, born and bred, I'm a fan of every NY team except in the NFL)....is that Steinbrenner was nowhere near being the wealthiest owner in all of sports. But, he had brilliant ideas of how to market the Yankees and their brand and MADE money with the team. Meanwhile owners like Paul Allen had far more money but the bottom line is that they just don't want to spend it if it remotely means possibly taking a loss. And the real fact is that they were nowhere near as smart and as aggressive in promoting the product.
The same with Jerry Jones. Most people don't recognize that much of what the NFL is today is due to the finances and Jerry Jones. Back when Tagliabue was commissioner, Tagliabue wanted to cave in on a terrible deal being offered by NBC. Jerry convinced Tagliabue to wait a year and FOX, ESPN or Turner would offer them an incredible deal. Jerry was right and FOX came up with the incredible offer and NBC realized the gaffe they made and it did the NFL wonders.
A family friend of mine worked for the Jets front office for years and once told me that he found it terribly ironic that NFL fans revered the Rooneys and loathed Jerry Jones because he felt that the Rooneys of the league held back the league financially. As Jerry has always said, he's not against revenue sharing, he just thinks there's more revenue out there to be shared and that some teams shouldn't have to basically subsidize the others.
As far as a GM, I think Jerry finds talent, but he's never quite understood how to mesh the talent. I think right now what we are seeing is a Dallas team that has that working against them along with a noticeable lack of depth, from years of getting away what initially made Jerry successful...trading down to acquire more picks.
3JACK
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