swivel
Beat up Radials
Posts: 24
|
Post by swivel on Mar 8, 2010 19:50:01 GMT -5
I tend to fall a little forward on my backswing causing my weight to be too much towards my toes. This puts me closer to the ball than when I started and makes it harder for me to be in the proper position in the downswing.
Any thoughts on how to correct this problem? Thanks.
|
|
|
Post by Richie3Jack on Mar 8, 2010 21:19:11 GMT -5
Hit practice shots with your toes up in the air. If you want to get real crazy, hit shots in your bare feet with the toes up in the air. Sam Snead used to do it and I do it often.
Welcome aboard!
3JACK
|
|
|
Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 8, 2010 22:08:18 GMT -5
The first thing I would check is your weight distribution at address. Make sure that your weight is equally balanced between your forefoot and heels, and make sure that your weight is not predominantly weighted over the forefoot. The correct address posture often requires a golfer to push the butt backwards to ensure that one is correctly balanced at address. Jeff.
|
|
|
Post by riduffer on Mar 8, 2010 22:13:58 GMT -5
If it's OK I have a related question. I often feel like I'm falling slightly backwards in the follow-through, with the weight going toward my left heel. Thoughts?
EDIT: I will definitely work on my set-up. That is probably part of the problem. Thanks Jeff.
|
|
|
Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 9, 2010 1:01:08 GMT -5
You wrote-: " I often feel like I'm falling slightly backwards in the follow-through, with the weight going toward my left heel."
Weight going to the left heel - I that's an appropriate "feeling" because one is actively performing a "left hip clearing" action where the lower body is pivoting inside-left in the late downswing/followthrough, and that motion gets more weight onto the left heel. However, if you have an exaggerated "feeling" of falling backwards onto the left heel, then you are probably lifting your spine bend angle through impact and falling backwards towards the tush line.
Jeff.
|
|
|
Post by golfbaka on Mar 9, 2010 4:26:37 GMT -5
|
|
|
Post by gmbtempe on Mar 9, 2010 9:59:22 GMT -5
This might be a different discussion but in what direction does the weight (I think a better term is "Center of Gravity") move in the downswing.
I had always thought it move linear towards the target, my teacher says it should move forward but leftward, so more in a diagonal movement.
I think this ties into what imperfectgolfer mentions, the proper hip squaring motion.
|
|
|
Post by cloran on Mar 9, 2010 10:08:59 GMT -5
There's a YouTube video from Shawn Clement that covers this very topic, GMB.
Hi hits a shot while standing on an electonic weight distribution measuring device, lol ... a scale that shows where his CoG is. If your CoG is moving in one direction, your weight is most likely moving that way too.
|
|
|
Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 9, 2010 10:14:54 GMT -5
Greg,
I personally don't find it helpful to think of the COG of the body because I am not even sure where it is located.
The COG of the body obviously moves leftwards in a traditional downswing, but it probably doesn't follow any specific path that is truly decipherable.
Jeff.
|
|
|
Post by gmbtempe on Mar 9, 2010 10:39:47 GMT -5
Greg, I personally don't find it helpful to think of the COG of the body because I am not even sure where it is located. The COG of the body obviously moves leftwards in a traditional downswing, but it probably doesn't follow any specific path that is truly decipherable. Jeff. To me it would be a line running through your head, throughthe center of the shoulders, through the center of your pelvis but that is purely my perception, I have no biomechanical reasoning for such a statement. I mean you would not want the head and the shoulders to stay back but the pelvis to move forward, I think there is some sort of "connection" between these distinct parts of the body. I
|
|
|
Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 9, 2010 12:04:38 GMT -5
Greg, I can identify with your perception that the COG is "somewhere" on that vertical line that bisects the body, but how far down the line? Also, that line doesn't stay vertical in the downswing - the pelvis moves much further forward than the upper torso/head in the downswing. I cannot pinpoint the exact location of Jamie Sadlowski's COG in his late downswing action. Can you? Jeff.
|
|
|
Post by gmbtempe on Mar 9, 2010 12:23:13 GMT -5
Can you look at a 2 dimensional photo for such a thing, its clearly moving to the left and not only forward as shown in the face on sequence? I think its farther down the line, likely right about the naval but its also centered inside the body (I hope that makes sense, its not the naval per say its behind the naval). I think Sadlowski is probably the extreme is he not, I mean he is hitting up and trying to generate a ball speed of 200+ mph. I believe I see on the down the line that the weight has to move left as well as forward if you use the location that I describe. Right now I see the next phase of my swing improvement is to get the correct shifting going on so its a topic of interest for me. I like this video of JB Holmes, you can see has his hip squares it pulls weight to the left, I assume this is a counteracting force to the arms and right shoulder swinging out away from the body.
|
|
|
Post by gmbtempe on Mar 9, 2010 16:20:27 GMT -5
Jeff,
I just watched your video #9 on your hands, arms, wrists in the swing and I think your discussion on the pelvis is missing the element I am discussing (discussed around the 3:30 min mark), if your weight only moves in a linear fashion then its likely going to result in a drop of the head while the hips slide forward move and the accumulators are going to dump early.
Look at JB Holmes video between 1:17 to 1:18 the weight is moving forward but its moving behind and to the left, I think this is a move that separates avg players a high level swings.
|
|
|
Post by imperfectgolfer on Mar 9, 2010 17:31:38 GMT -5
Greg, In that video segment number 9, I was only discussing the first element of the left hip clearing action - the replanting of weight onto the left foot. That requires a left-lateral pelvic motion, which only represents the first phase of the downswing pelvic motion. As the left leg becomes increasingly weighted/braced, the left pelvis will rotate back to the tush line, and that moves the lower body's weight around to the left heel. I discussed the complete pelvic motion in great detail in this review paper - in the left arm swinging section. perfectgolfswingreview.net/rightswing.htmThere is even more detail on the rotary pelvic motion in this review paper. perfectgolfswingreview.net/slotswing.htmJeff.
|
|
joec
'88 Apex Redlines
Posts: 161
|
Post by joec on Mar 9, 2010 17:50:30 GMT -5
jeff. for me, i want bent. for someone else, it is an option.
|
|