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Post by playa on Jan 13, 2013 8:57:49 GMT -5
Bman has yet another thread that is highly entertaining and predictable. Now that Jeffy has a Trackman and Kelvin Phantom, better move onto another gadget that only Bman has access to! See the trend? Learn to differentiate oneself in the market place like Bman! He went on with his usual rhetoric, that others without that machine has no chance to know as much as he does, therefore no chance as helpful as he is. One gets nothing out of his video golf learning wise because his purpose is to make one feels inferior and dependent. Lia rightfully gave them a piece of his mind! ekennedy deadpanned with a sucker question: since Bman does not own the machine, how does he plan to follow up on Lindsey, if otherwise there is no chance? Back into the medieval darkness and feudal mentation? In fact, Lindsey's spring season is right around the corner. A "diagnosis" like this, providing extremely sensitive findings on timing sequences, without fully adequate period of time to rewire the brain and the neuromuscular system, is potentially more damaging than helpful. She is told she has hidden problems within and she has no time or access to that machine to work them through. Her confidence, the most valuable asset to a golfer, is compromised. All in all it begs a more fundamental question: looking back, prior to Bman using that machine, how does Bman justify teaching Lindsey without knowing all those swing faults that Bman has been responsible for but only detected recently on that machine??? Such a self defeating exercise! This is marketing at its lowest form, borderline stupid. Bman could simply have shared his experience with it and left it as such. No, he just had to rub it in by proclaiming that others have no chance...he just have to crown himself as the hero. Funny how his supporters have to chime in helping him to back track with their definitions of "no chance" What he really meant was,,, Do we use technology to randomly and blindly cast a wide net to fish whatever we can find or do we use technology to assist us to confirm our clinical suspicions? Are the gadgets really there to help us "save" time or "shallowing" our thinking and diagnostic skills? "There is NO WAY to determine when the PELIVS, TORSO, LEAD ARM, and CLUB are peaking in speed without a device like this." WAY! Bman just recently presented a case on Jim Mclean swing with a different device
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 9:59:40 GMT -5
LOL... and I told him privately 2 years ago I could help him to find out some things, because I was the only one in the world working with that kind of device.
I'm should never tell him those things I did... should know what kind of man...
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 10:18:18 GMT -5
I had to go and read the thread also. What made me laugh is CW once again. After he has been so much against my findings and what I've done (even with more educated system) during the years, now he stands beside of his hero supporting how those devices are important to know what happens in the body.
It's great and funny. Two years ago we spent few months trying to explain him how TM data alone is useless and how we should figure out what body movements can create good impact values. When I told it he was totally against.. when BMan says it... it the truth and nothing but the truth.
And those idiotic comments against Lia... can't believe an adult man can go to that level..
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 11:12:06 GMT -5
Tapio -
I'm against your know it all behavior and pugalistic communication style, not your findings. Nobody really knows your true findings since you've never, ever put them in one place and all you do is make piece-meal comments about the golf swing without regard to an integrated whole.
You're just mad because AMM3D is a competitor. You were the only one in the world two years ago with that kind of a device? Please. Your device isn't even "stabile" as you admitted and nobody works with it. Phil Cheatem's AMM3D device is used by Olympians.
AMM3D beat you to the market. Enzo beat you to the market. How many businesses have to keep beating you to the market before you realize that you live in your own fantasy world with all of your alleged knoweldge? I'm sure you'll claim AMM3D is incorrect but your device is superior.
AMM3D was around in 2007! That's over 5-6 years ago. I wonder where you came up with the idea? Of course, all you need is video if you just ask Jeffy. You weren't the only one in the world two years ago with special knowledge.
So you think Jamie's hips constantly accelerate like Jeffy and Kelvin? You have similar graphs so the answer must be yes. Please say yes so we have you on record.
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Post by jeffy on Jan 13, 2013 11:38:33 GMT -5
Tapio - I'm against your know it all behavior and pugalistic communication style, not your findings. Nobody really knows your true findings since you've never, ever put them in one place and all you do is make piece-meal comments about the golf swing without regard to an integrated whole. You're just mad because AMM3D is a competitor. You were the only one in the world two years ago with that kind of a device? Please. Your device isn't even "stabile" as you admitted and nobody works with it. Phil Cheatem's AMM3D device is used by Olympians. AMM3D beat you to the market. Enzo beat you to the market. How many businesses have to keep beating you to the market before you realize that you live in your own fantasy world with all of your alleged knoweldge? I'm sure you'll claim AMM3D is incorrect but your device is superior. AMM3D was around in 2007! That's over 5-6 years ago. I wonder where you came up with the idea? Of course, all you need is video if you just ask Jeffy. You weren't the only one in the world two years ago with special knowledge. So you think Jamie's hips constantly accelerate like Jeffy and Kelvin? You have similar graphs so the answer must be yes. Please say yes so we have you on record. cw keeps trying to ignore that this is Motion Reality data that Manzella posted: And it shows nearly constant velocity, not acceleration.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 11:44:02 GMT -5
Tapio - I'm against your know it all behavior and pugalistic communication style, not your findings. Nobody really knows your true findings since you've never, ever put them in one place and all you do is make piece-meal comments about the golf swing without regard to an integrated whole. You're just mad because AMM3D is a competitor. You were the only one in the world two years ago with that kind of a device? Please. Your device isn't even "stabile" as you admitted and nobody works with it. Phil Cheatem's AMM3D device is used by Olympians. AMM3D beat you to the market. Enzo beat you to the market. How many businesses have to keep beating you to the market before you realize that you live in your own fantasy world with all of your alleged knoweldge? I'm sure you'll claim AMM3D is incorrect but your device is superior. AMM3D was around in 2007! That's over 5-6 years ago. I wonder where you came up with the idea? Of course, all you need is video if you just ask Jeffy. You weren't the only one in the world two years ago with special knowledge. So you think Jamie's hips constantly accelerate like Jeffy and Kelvin? You have similar graphs so the answer must be yes. Please say yes so we have you on record. Total bullshit CW, I'm not jealous at all, just happy because these kind of things are changing the whole culture and it makes good for us too. And you are also lying once again. You were totally against me about the role of the body measurements and what we need to know... TM was the ultimate tool for you and you were not at all able to understand that it's missing the main things, but is still useful for the purpose it was made. You kept arguing about that fro weeks even many people tried to explain.... once again... that simple thing to you. CW.. there is one word to say about your action: pathetic
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 11:45:31 GMT -5
Wrong Jeffy. This one is going to hurt. Your 500* per second and 600* per second calculations are way off. JAMIE DOES NOT ACCELERATE HIS PELVIS THROUGH THE DOWNSWING.
You can apologize directly to Brian. Or, better get another research a thon or criticize how the data was collected. You are so far behind.
I'm sure you'll claim you obtained the data really carefully from MATT and that your data was double checked so it can't be wrong. God this one is going to sting for awhile.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 11:47:25 GMT -5
Tapio - I'm against your know it all behavior and pugalistic communication style, not your findings. Nobody really knows your true findings since you've never, ever put them in one place and all you do is make piece-meal comments about the golf swing without regard to an integrated whole. You're just mad because AMM3D is a competitor. You were the only one in the world two years ago with that kind of a device? Please. Your device isn't even "stabile" as you admitted and nobody works with it. Phil Cheatem's AMM3D device is used by Olympians. AMM3D beat you to the market. Enzo beat you to the market. How many businesses have to keep beating you to the market before you realize that you live in your own fantasy world with all of your alleged knoweldge? I'm sure you'll claim AMM3D is incorrect but your device is superior. AMM3D was around in 2007! That's over 5-6 years ago. I wonder where you came up with the idea? Of course, all you need is video if you just ask Jeffy. You weren't the only one in the world two years ago with special knowledge. So you think Jamie's hips constantly accelerate like Jeffy and Kelvin? You have similar graphs so the answer must be yes. Please say yes so we have you on record. Total bullshit CW, I'm not jealous at all, just happy because these kind of things are changing the whole culture and it makes good for us too. And you are also lying once again. You were totally against me about the role of the body measurements and what we need to know... TM was the ultimate tool for you and you were not at all able to understand that it's missing the main things, but is still useful for the purpose it was made. You kept arguing about that fro weeks even many people tried to explain.... once again... that simple thing to you. CW.. there is one word to say about your action: pathetic I'm against your claim that one graph shows the kinematic sequence theory is wrong. Get it right. I even championed a device like yours. Go watch the video about Jamie's real numbers and learn. Stick with Jeffy. He's your only hope at this point.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 11:48:18 GMT -5
AMM3D beat you to the market. Enzo beat you to the market. How many businesses have to keep beating you to the market before you realize that you live in your own fantasy world with all of your alleged knoweldge? I'm sure you'll claim AMM3D is incorrect but your device is superior. LOL... what an idiot you are.. You can't even see what all we who work with those devices see right away.. and your hero didn't when he was analyzing Jim's change. There is no way that club head acts like that, so all the measurement is out of sync.. Understand it? NO WAY!!! And we don't come to the market with unfinished device that can have that kind of mistakes which are so visible you notice them in one second. So you think they beat us... or how they gonna explain that later if they first give totally wrong information. They should learn first how to fix that problem.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 11:50:28 GMT -5
Wrong Jeffy. This one is going to hurt. Your 500* per second and 600* per second calculations are way off. JAMIE DOES NOT ACCELERATE HIS PELVIS THROUGH THE DOWNSWING. You can apologize directly to Brian. Or, better get another research a thon or criticize how the data was collected. You are so far behind. I'm sure you'll claim you obtained the data really carefully from MATT and that your data was double checked so it can't be wrong. God this one is going to sting for awhile. LOL!!!Can't you really see what is wrong with those graphs ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 11:51:04 GMT -5
Go watch Brian's video and learn something. Jamie's pelvis/hips aren't accelerating through impact.
I bet those trade winds in Hawaii aren't blowing at all right now.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 11:52:55 GMT -5
Wrong Jeffy. This one is going to hurt. Your 500* per second and 600* per second calculations are way off. JAMIE DOES NOT ACCELERATE HIS PELVIS THROUGH THE DOWNSWING. You can apologize directly to Brian. Or, better get another research a thon or criticize how the data was collected. You are so far behind. I'm sure you'll claim you obtained the data really carefully from MATT and that your data was double checked so it can't be wrong. God this one is going to sting for awhile. LOL!!!Can't you really see what is wrong with those graphs ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You are the only one in the world two years ago with such knowledge so how could us mortals even come close? ;D You can't just post LOL to get out of this one when the data shows Jamie's hips DECELERATE towards impact. This is more about Jeffy and Kelvin having to explain their video analysis anyway. Jeffy has a lot more work to do now with this video up. Better call up Minnesota Fats for some science (he'll recognize the pool reference).
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 11:53:23 GMT -5
Go watch Brian's video and learn something. Jamie's pelvis/hips aren't accelerating through impact. I bet those trade winds in Hawaii aren't blowing at all right now. Stop now CW. You are telling everyone that you are stupid enough to believe those graphs and believe everything what BMan says without any critic. You are totally lost if you believe those graphs. Totally.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 11:54:34 GMT -5
Tru to understand this CW: That data is piece of shit and it's very visible.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 11:55:00 GMT -5
Go watch Brian's video and learn something. Jamie's pelvis/hips aren't accelerating through impact. I bet those trade winds in Hawaii aren't blowing at all right now. Stop now CW. You are telling everyone that you are stupid enough to believe those graphs and believe everything what BMan says without any critic. You are totally lost if you believe those graphs. Totally. Why don't you show the world your knowledge how these graphs are wrong? I bet you can't do it and all you'll do is ignore the fact that Jeffy and Kelvin's video analysis was wrong. Even you know the weaknesses of video in trying to get speed data off the body.
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