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Post by playa on Jan 13, 2013 14:23:12 GMT -5
It is commonly accepted that in pursuit of more current findings, what holds true of yesterday may look questionable at best today, but there is no need to denigrate if we can keep the sequence of developments in mind. Progresses are built on prior findings. Debates or arguments over issues belong to the bumps on the general trend. Here is the general trend: Bman's exclamation that anything any time he supports or endorses is THE thing. There is such an end-all finality with each hoopla. There is no room for doubt. It is crystal clear. We win, anyone against him loses. And when he moves onto the next thing, he conveniently forgets about the prior THE thing, when in fact the THE thing then and the THE thing now are in plain conflict. Whatever is in vogue, the perpetual self promoter always claims he has been teaching it from day one!
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 14:43:55 GMT -5
Why don't you raise the questions great Oz? Basic logic tells me you're biased and your machine isn't stabile. So Jeffy extrapolated his numbers from video? Now I know why the data was so screwed up. Like father (Kelvin) like son (Jeffy). Keep the focus away from AMM3D Jeffy. Good strategy.You have no idea whether or not the data was "screwed up". I put the focus on AMM3D over a year ago right here at Richies's! Tapio raised good questions then and none of them have been addressed by anybody. Why should I suddenly change my mind just because another set of suspect data is posted? richie3jack.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=2981And why don't you ask Manzella about the MATT data that vindicated Tapio? richie3jack.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=3941You have no idea if your pathetic attempt at extrapolating info from video is correct. NONE! Keep avoiding the fact that Kelvin is full of shit with his continuous acceleration theory based from interpreting video. You can cry, whine and try to change the subject, but the AMM3D data PROVES Kelvin's concept wrong. You just can't handle it as we thought you couldn't. Your gold medal analysis is really copper. What were your numbers? 600* acceleration through impact. You're in over your head in this game and AMM3D proves it. Of course, you'll try a new angle to avoid your mistake.
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Post by rj on Jan 13, 2013 14:47:29 GMT -5
How does Kelvin account for the AMM3D data? Bigger question since that's a pillar of his thoughts. Nobody uses Tapio's system so how you count that as one is ridiculous. Don't you idiot understand that laws of physics tells us that those measurements CAN'T BE RIGHT!!! Everyone who understands even a bit about that sees it right away, but not this one true believer, who got nothing else than believes... nothing else. No understanding, no knowledge.. just true believe to his god who can't make mistakes. I just wait that someone wakes up in his forum and ask two or three important questions. That whole thread will be deleted right after that. Which laws of physics are those that tell us those measurements can't be right? Can you be more precise than just saying they are wrong, can you show how they are wrong?
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 15:00:44 GMT -5
He can't. He poses questions in an attempt to show intelligence and then says nothing. Been doing that for awhile. They don't like light to shine on their claims, only Brian's.
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Post by rj on Jan 13, 2013 15:04:35 GMT -5
He can't. He poses questions in an attempt to show intelligence and then says nothing. Been doing that for awhile. They don't like light to shine on their claims, only Brian's. That's why I asked the questions it's easy to claim something is wrong anyone can do it about anything, it would be nice to back up such claims with some evidence showing the reasons why.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 15:11:40 GMT -5
Don't you idiot understand that laws of physics tells us that those measurements CAN'T BE RIGHT!!! Everyone who understands even a bit about that sees it right away, but not this one true believer, who got nothing else than believes... nothing else. No understanding, no knowledge.. just true believe to his god who can't make mistakes. I just wait that someone wakes up in his forum and ask two or three important questions. That whole thread will be deleted right after that. Which laws of physics are those that tell us those measurements can't be right? Can you be more precise than just saying they are wrong, can you show how they are wrong? Look at those. It's easy to see. But don't look those hip or shoulder speeds, the secret is elsewhere and that tells about the whole system credibility
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Post by playa on Jan 13, 2013 15:12:07 GMT -5
rj, I think teeace must have felt so very wronged by the dismissive attitude of Bman that he regards the situation/Bman hopeless, that teeace is not interested in offering any helpful suggestions or insights even though he is in position to do so. I can understand where teeace is coming from because I also detest people who are intellectually dishonest. We can safely assume their relationship is colder than lukewarm
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 15:14:22 GMT -5
He can't. He poses questions in an attempt to show intelligence and then says nothing. Been doing that for awhile. They don't like light to shine on their claims, only Brian's. I already did it in another thread but your stupidity made it invisible for you. It's still there to compare
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 15:15:46 GMT -5
Tapio posts because of his intellectual ego. He would avoid threads entirely if he thought everything was hopeless. He's ego pulls him back every time.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Jan 13, 2013 15:17:27 GMT -5
He can't. He poses questions in an attempt to show intelligence and then says nothing. Been doing that for awhile. They don't like light to shine on their claims, only Brian's. I already did it in another thread but your stupidity made it invisible for you. It's still there to compare There is so much you claim it's impossible for anyone to really know when and where. Your alleged new site will be fun to review. Tapio exposed should be the title. People can supinate while pronating.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 15:21:00 GMT -5
Tapio posts because of his intellectual ego. He would avoid threads entirely if he thought everything was hopeless. He's ego pulls him back every time. Actually it's your stupidity that keeps this going, nothing to do with my ego. And if you go through the threads, it's always the same where ever you go. People trying to explain even most simple things to you and you are the only one who can't understand it. If BMan tells you you should walk by your hands, you will do it. If WE all tell you after that, that 99,9999999% of people use their feet to do that, it will take 6 months to get it to your head. That's the problem. You listen him... but you don't think at all. But for sure he needs guys like you... easy ones...
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Post by playa on Jan 13, 2013 15:22:05 GMT -5
I think cwdlaw's poetic reference that trade wind shall cease in Hawaii is poetic but a lame attempt to attack Kelvin or his work. It is my opinion Kelvin's work is very significant and contributes a great deal to the knowledge of golf learning. It is why since the past year or so Bman's forum has changed dramatically to find every opportunity to counter what Kelvin has to offer. Why? Because a better understanding of the golf swing offered by Kelvin hurts businesses that are built on hype and hacks. To pin Kelvin/ Jeffy down on the presence or absence of acceleration through hip rotation is childish and stupid. It is like focusing a sesame when missing the entire watermelon I have reviewed all of Bman's tapes. I challenge anyone who has done so to show me anywhere where Bman devotes much time or teaching on the motion of the lower half of the body. Bman's thesis boils down to upper body compensation moves for the elderly
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Post by rj on Jan 13, 2013 15:23:02 GMT -5
rj, I think teeace must have felt so very wronged by the dismissive attitude of Bman that he regards the situation/Bman hopeless, that teeace is not interested in offering any helpful suggestions or insights even though he is in position to do so. I can understand where teeace is coming from because I also detest people who are intellectually dishonest. We can safely assume their relationship is colder than lukewarm What's that got to do with what I asked? I'm not Manzella. Is an explanation not forth coming because Tapio has hurt feelings? Sounds kinda lame. Can Tapio help us out here and explain the flaws in the J.S. data. Some of us have a hard time sifting through all these graphs and knowing what we are actually looking at. Thanks in advance.
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Post by teeace on Jan 13, 2013 15:23:35 GMT -5
I already did it in another thread but your stupidity made it invisible for you. It's still there to compare There is so much you claim it's impossible for anyone to really know when and where. Your alleged new site will be fun to review. Tapio exposed should be the title. People can supinate while pronating. And once more you show how idiot you are... amazing. I have never said that. You don't even understand your own language. How the hell you can be that stupid and graduate in US? Or maybe that "lawyer" is just your dream and in reality you clean toilets with FW
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Post by playa on Jan 13, 2013 15:26:45 GMT -5
rj, I think teeace must have felt so very wronged by the dismissive attitude of Bman that he regards the situation/Bman hopeless, that teeace is not interested in offering any helpful suggestions or insights even though he is in position to do so. I can understand where teeace is coming from because I also detest people who are intellectually dishonest. We can safely assume their relationship is colder than lukewarm What's that got to do with what I asked? I'm not Manzella. Is an explanation not forth coming because Tapio has hurt feelings? Sounds kinda lame. Can Tapio help us out here and explain the flaws in the J.S. data. Some of us have a hard time sifting through all these graphs and knowing what we are actually looking at. Thanks in advance. Perhaps lame to you. I also wish teeace can be more forthcoming as well. But as I said I understand why he prefers not to say much in public because I am sure Bman reads this forum 10 times per hour to find content for his threads and Bman can easily twist whatever comes out of teeace for his own agenda. In a way, you can learn to appreciate that with people like Bman around, progress in golf becomes more challenging.
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