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Post by playa on Jan 26, 2013 9:19:16 GMT -5
What I am saying is that I am not sure what "bending" means in specific motion directions.
More flexion or less?
More supination or less? etc
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Post by teeace on Jan 26, 2013 9:28:37 GMT -5
What I am saying is that I am not sure what "bending" means in specific motion directions. More flexion or less? More supination or less? etc More flexion at UD position. No supination at the right forearm as ext. rotation of the right shoulder prevents left forearm supination. Short video coming... |
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Post by teeace on Jan 26, 2013 10:45:44 GMT -5
Here you are Playa.
And of course there is much more going on at the same time, so the movements should not be taken literally, it's just about the wrist
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Post by playa on Jan 26, 2013 10:48:11 GMT -5
Great video, thanks!
You should do more videos in the future.
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 26, 2013 16:52:20 GMT -5
Conceivably I can see what you are saying and I agree, that, at transition when H drops to a lower plane, that motion has some element of left forearm pronation. I have no problem with that. The issue of contention is what happens after that. I believe something opposite is about to happen. To help to flatten the wrist and "pre-square" the face, he changes the direction of rotation of the left forearm from whatever degree of pronation to less so, if not neutral then some degree of supination. And the more he comes down into the impact area the more obviously supinated he is, at least easier to see with those old videos. In my opinion, with golf swing at impact, it is natural to pair up wrist flexion and supination, not wrist flexion with pronation. flexion with pronation is a rather interesting pose, like sticking out the butt of the shaft in an in to out path, like a holding pattern with an extremely opened face, as if trying to accomplish the most extreme slice. Again, short of talking and showing face to face in the same room, we could be misunderstanding each other. Maybe this clears it out. And sorry about the quality as it was quickly made some time ago and I had no time to make it better. Please notice that timing and when those things really happen is not relevant in this video. Just once again showing isolated movements and putting them together in random order I just dont agree that one can achieve a bowed/flat wrist using that method. Thats dangerously close to shoving the hands forward and I just dont feel like that produces much of anything. I think using PP #3 tracing is fine but all this motion should be built upon proper body rotation, and maybe your video was not addressing all the details but I feel like that video is a tad misleading as it leaves the impression one just applies a little hit with a bent right wrist and they will achieve a bowed wrist. I tried that method for a year, does not work. |
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Post by teeace on Jan 27, 2013 1:57:15 GMT -5
Maybe this clears it out. And sorry about the quality as it was quickly made some time ago and I had no time to make it better. Please notice that timing and when those things really happen is not relevant in this video. Just once again showing isolated movements and putting them together in random order I just dont agree that one can achieve a bowed/flat wrist using that method. Thats dangerously close to shoving the hands forward and I just dont feel like that produces much of anything. I think using PP #3 tracing is fine but all this motion should be built upon proper body rotation, and maybe your video was not addressing all the details but I feel like that video is a tad misleading as it leaves the impression one just applies a little hit with a bent right wrist and they will achieve a bowed wrist. I tried that method for a year, does not work. That video got nothing to do with how and when. It was just for Playa to explain how one can avoid to hit the wall in my door drill. There is no other way than get the right wrist bent. |
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