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Post by Richie3Jack on Apr 9, 2013 14:29:26 GMT -5
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Post by pavaveda on Apr 9, 2013 17:02:23 GMT -5
Interesting. But something that has never made sense to me is this: "That’s why the commonly accepted manner of playing a driver has been to sole the club on the ground so it adopts its static specifications for loft and face angle, taking the grip, and starting the swing."
I don't understand how you're supposed to exactly sole a driver so that it adopts it's static specifications. Most drivers I've used are very rounded on the bottom heel to toe and front to back. It might be true that that is what a golfer is supposed to do, but it's a very big assumption, in my opinion, that that is what typically happens.
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Post by pavaveda on Apr 9, 2013 17:22:42 GMT -5
Another thing I don't understand (there's a lot) is why is the standard loft on a driver ~60 degrees whereas the typical swing plane with a driver is ~45 degrees? And wouldn't moving the lie of these tested drivers closer to 45 degrees before taking measurements be more realistic? I mean, don't we care more about what is happening at impact than at address? And to take it a step further, don't we care more about the flight of the ball more than we do the numbers on the club?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Apr 9, 2013 19:02:52 GMT -5
I don't think every golfer soles the club flat. But, I think that's the general idea for most golfers. My dad hoods the club in the fashion that Wishon shows. It's a bad habit for him because he starts having a very closed face at impact and hits a lot of low trajectory shots despite hitting the sweetspot. It's something I remind him about frequently and once he soles it flat, the trajectory completely changes.
But the thing is that he has no unearthly idea that he was doing this until I showed him on camera. He's an extreme case and I think most people come pretty close to soleing the club flat (or flat as they can).
With that said, the point is that is how those clubs are engineered and that's how the Green Machine measures them.
3JACK
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Post by MattF on Apr 9, 2013 19:05:28 GMT -5
don't we care more about the flight of the ball more than we do the numbers on the club? You, and us for sure. But most of the golfers are still using these numbers when choosing their new driver in the big stores ... |
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Post by ericpaul2 on Apr 9, 2013 19:55:21 GMT -5
I think the soling the club argument falls apart when one considers the angle of the shaft. What is not discussed is that when measured in the same spot on the sole, the angle of the shaft changes with the different hosel settings. So, if hte golfer were to put the club down in the same spot, the position of his hands would change from setting to setting, left, right, up, and down. I don't think that's what actually happens. Personally, I set the club down in the same basic location, put my hands in the same spot, and the rounded sole does allow the club to change the face angle.
The one thing I'll say since I have an adjustable driver, I do think the face angle adjustment works, but I'm not so sure about the loft. Trajectory, does go down, but left at the same time, suggesting that is only because the face is hooded at impact.
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