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Post by gmbtempe on Jul 21, 2013 12:22:55 GMT -5
I have memories of golf back to 86 and Jack's 65, but while that was sheer awesomeness the difficulty at this course was definitely higher. I am trying to recall some other ones, Tiger's Open at Pebble Beach was brilliance over 4 days and for the most part he won his majors on Saturday rounds.
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Post by burner on Jul 21, 2013 17:24:22 GMT -5
I have memories of golf back to 86 and Jack's 65, but while that was sheer awesomeness the difficulty at this course was definitely higher. I am trying to recall some other ones, Tiger's Open at Torrey Pines was brilliance over 4 days and for the most part he won his majors on Saturday rounds. Ranks 1st on the day but whilst that sounds facetious the average score for the field was 73. Phil really "Putt" it all into context.  |
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jul 22, 2013 7:53:26 GMT -5
Probably just above Schwartzel at the Masters a few years ago. Schwartzel birdied the last 4 to win. Say what you will about Augusta, but #17 and #18 are difficult holes to birdie. And let's face it, if you win the Masters...you are set for life and your immediately family is set for life. It's a game-changer of epic proportions. If you win the other 3 majors, people tend to forget about that in 10 years unless you can win another one. People are always going to remember Phil's Masters wins than his British Open. It's just the way it is.
Phil's 66 more or less snuck up on us in the same way Schwartzel's victory snuck up on us. And both were when there were a lot of contenders going into the back nine.
Tiger's play at Pebble was more or less a spectacle to watch. Jack's goes down as the best for the drama and the fact that he shot 30 on the back nine at the age of 46 in the days of persimmon and balata. You didn't see guys hitting 9-irons into 15 back then like you do today.
After that you still have Jack at Baltusrol in 1980, Watson's chip-in at Pebble (which I think is a bit of an overrated moment), Miller's 63 at Oakmont, Arnie's 65 at Cherry Hills. That's about all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Post by gmbtempe on Jul 22, 2013 19:02:54 GMT -5
I saw an article today that said its there with Miller's 63 and Jacks 65, honestly in terms of sheer difficulty and pressure I am not sure there have been any others that low on Sunday to win, Augusta is a much easier course to shoot a 65 to win.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jul 23, 2013 10:18:41 GMT -5
I agree with you on that.
But Nicklaus had to -7 on the last 10 holes in order to do it. And he did it with a bogey on the 12th. So he played 9 of the 10 holes at -8. And this was back in '86 when Augusta was much more difficult to make birdies and eagles on that it was today. Nicklaus crushed a drive on #15 when he was still one of the very longest in the game and still had 4-iron into the green. Today we see guys like Dustin Johnson can get there with a 9-iron.
While Muirfield was hard, it was playing very fast. The wind was not a huge factor. At least from the speed of the fairways the golfers could get the ball very close to the hole off the tee. That's why they were often hitting irons on the long par-4's...they could hit them 300 yards. One of the holes was 448 yards and Adam Scott almost drove it. It was difficult to control the speed of the fairways and the greens, but if you could the scoring opportunities were there because the course gets shortened up. With Nicklaus, I don't think he hit a bad shot outside of the drive on 17 which was struck pretty well, but the tree on the right was blocking off the tee shot back then.
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