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Post by imperfectgolfer on Jan 20, 2010 11:14:42 GMT -5
Regarding a swinger's swing action, Brian Manzella has stated that the right arm should apply push-pressure to the left hand/grip end of the club when the club becomes vertical to the ground in the downswing. That time-point is usually at the start of the mid-downswing.
Why should a swinger need the right arm to apply any supplementary push-pressure in the downswing if he has an efficient pivot action that releases PA#4 super-efficiently?
Jeff.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 20, 2010 12:33:38 GMT -5
I agree Jeff in that I don't really understand it either. Manzella bases much of his stuff off of 6 degree, 3D motion data and basically they are saying that everybody does a bit of hitting and swinging in their swing and there is basically a 'drag load' then 'drive load' move in the downswing.
I think he quoted Dr. Aaron Zick saying that a legtimately 'true hitter' would only hit the ball 55% of their potential distance. That's why he doesn't believe there is such a thing as a 'true hitter' because if you're hitting a driver 280, then that's saying you can hit it over 500 yards, so they must be using some 'drag loading' in their swing.
With 'pure swinger' I think Zick is saying that it can only go to 80%.
I still believe that a swinger (and a hitter) should have plenty of 'right arm' at impact and beyond. I think that requires *some* pushing, but more unbending...without flipping of the right wrist to release the clubhead.
3JACK
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 20, 2010 13:41:44 GMT -5
Why should a swinger need the right arm to apply any supplementary push-pressure in the downswing if he has an efficient pivot action that releases PA#4 super-efficiently?Jeff. Maybe to compensate for the lack of pivot rotation/action through the shot? Honestly pivot stall happens a high % of the time, IMO. I imagine its the reason I feel some right arm into impact, to help the club make up for the pivot stall.
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Post by imperfectgolfer on Jan 20, 2010 14:51:58 GMT -5
Greg
I can understand how an inefficient pivot action can cause the left arm to slow down too much prior to impact, and that some supplementary push-pressure at PP#1 may help prevent the left arm from slowing down. That's why I specifically stated efficient pivot action that releases PA#4 super-efficiently.
The problem with the idea of adding supplementary push-pressure with the right arm in the mid-late downswing is that two problems can easily occur.
1) The right arm push-pressure at PP#1 may push the left hand too fast, and too jerkingly, into impact.
2) It is near-impossible to apply push-pressure at PP#1 without also applying push-pressure at PP#3 in the late downswing (when the club is releasing) - and any drive-loading action will interfere with the fluidity of the centrifugally-released club's motion (passive release of PA#2).
Jeff.
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