Right shoulder stalling

[imperfectgolfer]

Consider this biomechanical/mechanical argument made by Chuck Quinton.

See - www.oneplanegolfswing.com/golf-instruction/club-head-speed-research/index.php

He presents the following argument.

"To make this simpler, think of casting a fishing rod. When you want the bait on the end of the line to release out past the end of the rod, you bring the forward moving handle of the rod to a near complete stop depending on the angle and distance you wish to cast the bait. If you continue to move the handle toward the target, the end of the string containing the bait will not accelerate as quickly as if you "snap" the handle of the rod to a stop, letting the bait zoom past at maximum speed. The pivot point in this case is the handle and needs to remain relatively fixed in order for the end of the lever to reach maximum acceleration. In the golf swing, this fixed point is the right shoulder and it must come to a near stop through the impact area in order for the energy and speed created by the trunk to be fully transmitted to the arms, and eventually, the clubhead."

1) Do you believe that the fixed pivot point for release is the right shoulder?

2) Do you believe that the right shoulder must come to a near-stop for energy to be transmitted to the arms/club?

Jeff.

[gmbtempe]

I don't agree with this at all, the pivot decelerates but comes to a near stop, no way. I also don't like the fishing analogy.

[imperfectgolfer]

Greg,

What do you think of his other idea - that the right shoulder is the pivot point for the club release action?

Jeff.

[gmbtempe]

I don't like that either, but I am such a swing novice compared to some around here.

[mudball]

I've always thought it was a bad thing to stop a part of the body - it's definitely got me thinking.
The pictures shown of Tiger remind me of the old Ice Skating line - you know the skaters all linked arm in arm and the one at the centre of the circle moving much slower than the one on the outside.

Not sure I like the fishing rod analogy - after all it's golf not fishing - I mean look at a discus or hammer thrower - do they stop moving as they release? I don't know but the image doesn't come to me clearly. If I think of a punch - I wouldn't hold back my shoulder as I snapped my arm - I'd let the shoulder keep on moving as I snapped the arm?

I dunno - I can see an evening of careful studying of photographs and video clips coming up...

What I wanted was a nice curry and a beer or three!

[Richie3Jack]

This could be found out with some research on 6* 3D machines. I don't like the fishing analogy either because the shoulder and the fishing rod are two different things. If you're going to compare something, then I would compare the handle on the rod to the handle on the golf club. In this case, I agree that moving the handle of the *golf club* towards the target in the impact interval can be a bit hazardous. One big thing I'm working on with my swing is to avoid doing that because it gets me off plane past impact (aka, not properly swinging left).

I don't think the right shoulder comes to a near stop either. Look at this Hogan video.





3JACK