Jeff Mann's Perfect Golf Swing Review

[Richie3Jack]

I would like to promote message board member Jeff Mann's Web site.

When I got back into the game after an 8-year layoff from the game, I had wanted to learn 'The Golfing Machine' as that was something I got into for a little bit when I was playing college golf with an old instructor.

One of the things I think golfers, especially juniors, 'have it good' today is the internet allows golfers to find out a lot about pretty much every facet of the game, particularly the swing and all *many* of the different philosophies.

Fortunately, I was able to come across Jeff's Web site and I found it to be very TGM based and it helped me greatly understand the basics and beyond of TGM.

People ask me all of the time where I started to learn TGM, and I tell them it started with Jeff's Web site. People are shocked when I say this and they get into Jeff's golfing skill, but I've never been too interested in that aspect if I feel the golfer knows what he's talking about.

There are many good teachers in the world who are not that great at 'doing' whatever it is they do in their particular field. Bill Parcells is considered a legendary football coach who only made it to Hastings College as a football player. That doesn't take away his ability to actually instruct a player how to play a position with excellent technique in football.

But, my favorite example of this is a coach named Doug Blevins. Blevins has been confined to a wheelchair his entire life, yet is arguably the greatest American Football kicking coach the game has ever seen. He's coached greats like Orlindo Mare, David Akers and Adam Viniatieri.

Viniatieri is a great example as he was so bad in college that in his senior year he was benched for poor field goal kicking and replaced by a *non-kicker* (a lineman I believe).

Yet, he finally went to Blevins and resurrected himself into a possible Hall of Famer, which is impressive at the kicker position.

Eventually I went to other sources to help understand other parts of TGM, like GSEB Ted Fort, Lynn Blake and Peter Croker's 'TGM Downloads' with GSED Paul Hart.

But, I still reference Jeff's Web site to this day when it comes to parts of the swing.

Do I agree with everything on the site?

Certainly not. But I don't think that would ever be possible with any golf Web site. But, it's still and excellent and helpful Web site and IMO, a must for beginners and novices to read.

Anyway, the Web site is at perfectgolfswingreview.net. Jeff updates it frequently with new studies, analysis, and thoughts on the golf swing and teachings of the golf swing.

Certainly check it out.









3JACK

[imperfectgolfer]

3 jack

Thank you for the kind words.

It is interesting how many people reject my "thinking" about the biomechanics/mechanics of the golf swing because I lack the athleticism/flexibility/skill to execute a golf swing flawlessly. You are wise enough to realize that my opinions re: golf swing biomechanics/mechanics should be judged objectively - based on the solidity/coherency of their internal logic and their degree of concordance with "reality".

I never get upset when you (or somebody else) disagrees with my opinions expressed on my website. I only get upset when critics do not even try to provide a reasoned argument when they arbitrarily reject my opinions. I love criticism, that is backed-up with a thoughtfully expressed explanation, because it gives me an opportunity to revise/modulate my opinions if the criticism is sound.

Jeff.

[lythro]

Jeff

This is my first post to any Golf forum and it is written to express my personal gratitude on the work that you did on your website.

I took up Golf about 8 years ago, and granted I am not the most flexible man on earth. I went through the majority of the problems that a beginner golfer has(miss the ball, hit it right, or left, in water, sand traps trees and all the good stuff) but my major problem was coming over the Top .

After spending many hours( during the NJ winter) on your website and your demonstrations on utube, I finally was able to implement what 7 years of golf instruction ( with the top golf instructor in Jersey) and countless books were not able to do. I was very close to accepting that Golf may be is not for me. I felt defeated. It is very hard to play with people that hit the ball 230 to 250 and you cannot get 200 freaking yards out of a drive.

This spring I again started lessons challenging my instructor and demanding cure of the OTT before anything else. I think I got it Jeff.


I play much better,i drive over 200 with an occasional 230 240 , I am not always right and short, my handicap dropped ( i am still working on it) and I enjoy the game more.

Any time that you are in NJ, you are welcome to play a round ( dinner and wine also) at our country club.

Thanks again

[imperfectgolfer]

Lythro,

Thanks for the kind words.

I get an extraordinary number of appreciative e-mails from my golf website's visitors who tell me that they have personally cured an intractable golf swing fault (that could not be previously improved despite many golf lessons with different golf instructors) as a result of reading "something" on my website. What "cure" they have serendipitously discovered varies with each individual golfer. Perhaps you could explain what "cure" you have finally discovered that has allowed you to personally remedy a long-standing swing problem.

Jeff.

[jonnygrouville]

I'll bet! Without your essays, I would not have heard of straight-plane-lines or right-forearm-takeaways. I'm not saying I have found any foolproof 'cures', but the understanding you have presented has changed my overall approach to the swing considerably.

[lythro]

Jeff

The Golf instructors were able to give me the fundamentals on the Grip, posture, alignment and setup. Again thanks to your website, I made the following adjustments:

1. Takeaway. I have become conscious of the fact that I must execute the takeaway in the way you describe as "rightwards-centralised backswing action". This "cured" my backswing inconsistencies that led to most OTT hits in the past.

2. Downswing. After going through your section on downswing numerous times, I made the adjustment on the following 3 aspects of my downswing:
a. Weight shift. Golf instructors NEVER adequately explained to me the anatomical components of the weight shift and a clear understanding of the correlation between weight shift and the dropping of the club at the same time. Therefore, I now start my downswing with a weightshift motion- pelvis rotation with a slight lateral bump a split second before dropping my club.
b. Pulling the right arm down at the beginning of the downswing. I always knew this action , but was never able to implement it. Now with the proper weight shift, I am able to drop the club to my right, therefore delaying the premature uncocking of the wrist that was a part of my game before.
c. Right before impact. My left wrist is now much further forward( although not were I want it to be) with my upper body solidly behind the ball, and this way I hit the ball further.

A very helpful video on your website is the one by Robert Baker on the O factor. Priceless. I now have a positive O factor as opposed to my impact position which was closer to zero or maybe a slight negative one.

Another problem for me is that I come from the Souther Mediterranean( Cyprus), where there was no golf when I was growing up. I was first exposed to this game after the age of 40 and attempted to learn the game by high handicap friends. Therefore I feel I became a "switter".
Very hard to change.

I am still working on things and having a Golf instructor monitoring these changes. I will be able to give you a true measurable effect of these changes in the near future.

My hope is that my handicap drops about 13 to 15 strikes.

Also let me know if NJ or even Cyprus are on your travel schedule. I feel much obligated and want to reciprocate.

[imperfectgolfer]

Lythro,

You certainly seem to have studied my golf instructional material in depth.

I can understand how those changes are helping you to overcome an OTT problem and how they also diminish the likelihood of casting.

Thanks for the offer of a round of golf in NJ. I will keep that offer in mind if I ever travel to the east for a golfing trip. However, I must admit that my greatest satisfaction is knowing that golfers are improving their golf swing as a result of some golf instructional insight that they have gained from my website. Golf is a great game that becomes more fun when one's ball striking ability improves to a point that one can break 80.

Jeff.

[chaviva]

Hi, I am a new member and this is my first posting on this board.

I too would like to express my appreciation to Jeff Mann for his excellent You Tube video channel Imperfect Golfer, as well as his Perfect Golf Swing Review.Net review papers and his new series on Ustream.

His explanations are most helpful. It's obvious that he has done a tremendous amount of studying and devoted a great deal of time to putting all of this together and keeps revising and sharing new aspects he has re-analysed and updated.

This is a formidable body of in depth work which must have taken a lot of time, and he has shared it with anyone who will take the time and effort to apply his insights, at no cost whatsoever.

He has really helped my understanding and technique. I almost quit as I was so frustrated, and thought I would never improve, until a friend recommended that I study his papers and his videos.

Thank you, Jeff!

Chaviva.

[Richie3Jack]

Jeff is still in good standing with me as a person. I think the issue was I didn't quite know what I wanted in a forum. I think I was looking for experts from different fields and philosophies to be able to converse, debate a little, explain their position, clarify their position and let the other forum members decide what they want.

But I think I got caught up in getting in vigorous debate which Jeff enjoys and I didn't foresee the pitfalls that would arise from that. I think Rand Smith's forum is really excellent for that.





3JACK