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Post by gmbtempe on May 17, 2011 16:50:08 GMT -5
ditto...but if anyone thinks DT is "exclusive" with Bmanz since Feb, then i'd say there is an Arnold Schwarzenegger problem... Not getting the analogy? |
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Post by michaelfinney on May 17, 2011 17:25:48 GMT -5
siteseer, whoever you are......exclusive
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Post by iteachgolf on May 17, 2011 17:38:57 GMT -5
I know Brian has been with Toms at a few tour events this year. I'm not even a big fan of Brian's but he certainly seems to me to be the one Toms is working with
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Post by siteseer2 on May 17, 2011 18:05:54 GMT -5
Teach....the watch word was "exclusive"...Finney...whoever you are....you're at least one step removed...but your entitled to pass along what you've heard/believed/held-dear...
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Post by michaelfinney on May 17, 2011 19:28:30 GMT -5
whoever i am?......my name is on every post, unlike you....c'mon big boy, tell us the facts - fill us in
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Post by Richie3Jack on May 17, 2011 19:52:44 GMT -5
I didn't deserve this  I think we need some proof that Toms and Brian have not been working exclusively since February. Otherwise we should just drop it. If Toms is having great success with Brian...great. If he has great success with Slice....great. I look at it like that is what teaching is about...improving golfers. And it's good for golf instruction when a golfer improves. So either show some evidence to the contrary...or drop it. 3JACK |
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Post by rohlio on May 17, 2011 21:12:03 GMT -5
Why do these threads all have to turn into a Da vinci code style:
"I know x, but I won't tell..."
It doesn't do any good for anybody and it doesn't make you seem important to speak cryptically.
Congratulations to David Toms, I am happy to see him inspired about his golf again.
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Post by michaelfinney on May 17, 2011 21:18:33 GMT -5
i think what i stated was pretty clear, rohlio....and i didn't post it to seem important, posted it because i am friends with david and brian and i'm proud of david's recent play
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Post by rohlio on May 17, 2011 21:28:54 GMT -5
David has been working exclusively with Brian since mid February Yep that is pretty clear...you are clearly not who I was referring to by my comment. However this seems to happen all the time in these threads. it was more a general observation than an individual call out. |
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Post by tightdraw on May 18, 2011 5:24:13 GMT -5
I agree with Rohlio. We are losing sight of the importance of the accomplish first in efforts to ascribe credit for it and ultimately in trying to determine who has a larger penis. When this happens even well-intended contributors can be brought down to a level unworthy of them and the blog
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Post by Richie3Jack on May 18, 2011 7:22:49 GMT -5
I understand the need for anonymous sources. Even if you're just a poster on a forum. Generally the only time I feel a reporter is 'hiding behind' anonymous sources is when their stories are continually found to be inaccurate and their stories are from 'anonymous sources.' After awhile, they either need to start naming the sources or get new anonymous sources. ESPN reporters do this all of the time. They can have an abysmal accuracy rate, but they just keep plugging along with the same inaccurate reports from the same 'anonymous sources' and nobody at ESPN really cares as long as they get good ratings and Web clicks.
This situation is different to me. People here know Brian. People here know Geoff Jones (SliceFixer). The argument is devolving into Mike saying one thing and Siteseer2 saying another. The only way to cap it off is to get some sort of proof or evidence of David not working with Brian exclusively since February.
Personally, I really don't care much. To me, David Toms doesn't need to improve to validate Brian or Geoff as a teacher. But, the rest of the golf world tends to think differently from me on this issue.
3JACK
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Post by michaelfinney on May 18, 2011 8:09:25 GMT -5
this is no "**** measuring contest"....this is a congratulations to a guy who helped another guy "refind" his game.....siteseer and redgolfer can insinuate all they want....they have no back up because they have their version of the story wrong - that's ok....
brian takes his shots at people.....many people take shots at him.....but in this particular story, brian is bulletproof - he got a talented guy who was admittedly struggling to make some upgrades with the help of a really good eye and a trackman.....that's it - end of story
some posters can deflect and do their normal "woe is me, here we go again" routine, but in the end, brian guided david through a rough patch and came out on the other end $1 million richer....i personally think there is a lot more good golf to come - but that's just a guess....
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Post by Richie3Jack on May 18, 2011 9:36:51 GMT -5
Some other David Toms stats
107.6 mph clubhead speed (169th)
6.0 second hangtime (157th)
2,279 rpm spin rate (5th - lowest)
83'7" Apex Height (147th)
1.485 smash factor (t-2nd)
12.38* launch angle (16th)
2.648 total distance efficiency (3rd)
2.419 total carry efficiency (42nd)
Definitely hitting up on the ball with his driver.
3JACK
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Post by dodger on May 18, 2011 10:34:49 GMT -5
Give credit where it belongs, David Toms. He is the guy that applied himself to improve his game, and is showing how a good ballstriker with modest clubspeed can succeed on tour. Brian Manzella is not shouting his work with DT on his site or anywhere else. Pretty classy. Pros are not robots where you can tell them something and they automatically do it. This is a world class golfer and athlete, and he applied himself with good results. Props to David Toms, he is the guy who swung the club and had the cojones to go for the green on 16, gutsy shot.
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Post by michaelfinney on May 18, 2011 11:27:02 GMT -5
david gets all the credit......and all the attention......and all the money - deservedly so....
brian has been working with him and deserves an attaboy as opposed to someone who is not working with him - just setting the record straight
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