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Post by mchepp on Oct 2, 2010 0:11:53 GMT -5
Hi Guys,
I had a bit of a layoff for a few months due to a broken finger. I look forward to everyone's feedback. Biggest area for me has been working on shortening my swing. I feel as though my shoulders stop on the backswing and the hands keep moving forcing my hands to try to catch up.
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Post by Ringer on Oct 4, 2010 18:11:29 GMT -5
Looks like a rather weak right hand grip requiring an extra bit of rotation to square up the face.
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Post by mchepp on Oct 4, 2010 18:48:45 GMT -5
Looks like a rather weak right hand grip requiring an extra bit of rotation to square up the face. Thanks for that. I have been told that before, but often let the grip slip a bit from time to time.
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Post by mchepp on Nov 10, 2010 19:41:13 GMT -5
A new update. I am pretty happy with my progress.
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Post by gmbtempe on Nov 11, 2010 11:55:40 GMT -5
Looking good...
I see a few things but I am almost afraid of commenting and offering suggestions because I am not a pro.
I see some casting and pivot issues, looks a tad below plane.
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Post by mchepp on Nov 12, 2010 12:33:52 GMT -5
Thanks for your comments. I would like you to offer suggestions, at least it will give me something to think about.
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Post by Ringer on Nov 12, 2010 16:59:12 GMT -5
Your swing looks very similar to Shawn Clements.
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Post by tightdraw on Nov 12, 2010 18:21:39 GMT -5
I'm a bit in Greg's boat on this. I am reluctant to offer advise without at least seeing the ball flight. I would say that I see two things that may well be connected but even though I am a tournament tested golfer of over 35 years, I would take what I say with a grain of salt. I see a breakdown of the left wrist at impact and something of a collapsed left elbow soon after impact. Many teachers encourage that so I don't want to offer it as a criticism. But the left wrist breakdown looks pretty obvious to me.
The only other problem that may have significant consequences is your head movement which is good bit up and down.
A lot looks very good to me including the rhythm of the swing and position of the club and hands at the top of the backswing.
Best, JUles
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Post by mchepp on Nov 12, 2010 18:24:57 GMT -5
Your swing looks very similar to Shawn Clements. Sometimes I feel you are right, except, he seems to generate a great deal more power than me. I think his pivot is far superior to mine. Mostly I think we look similar on the backswing.
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Post by mchepp on Nov 12, 2010 18:34:29 GMT -5
I'm a bit in Greg's boat on this. I am reluctant to offer advise without at least seeing the ball flight. I would say that I see two things that may well be connected but even though I am a tournament tested golfer of over 35 years, I would take what I say with a grain of salt. I see a breakdown of the left wrist at impact and something of a collapsed left elbow soon after impact. Many teachers encourage that so I don't want to offer it as a criticism. But the left wrist breakdown looks pretty obvious to me. The only other problem that may have significant consequences is your head movement which is good bit up and down. A lot looks very good to me including the rhythm of the swing and position of the club and hands at the top of the backswing. Best, JUles Ballflight is a very fair question. My good swing produces a pretty straight shot. I do not hit the ball very high, but generally very straight. My miss is a push-fade, or straight-fade. Mostly the push-fade though. I desperately hate the push-fade. It can feel helpless at times to rid myself of it. I have tried for years to fix the head moving. I think it is connected to the fact that my backswing is a bit long. Once I go up, it is inevitable that I must go down otherwise I will miss the ball, so I think those are connected. As for casting, yes, I know I do that, but I feel that is connected to my pivot stalling. I also think that I start throwing away "lag" right from the start of my downswing. I think if I fix my pivot then the casting will resolve itself.
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Post by tightdraw on Nov 12, 2010 23:02:22 GMT -5
Again I want to be careful so i am just telling you what i see. I don't think you have a long backswing at all. There is an issue of the coordination of your arms and pivot on the way down though. When you are at the 9 oclock position on the way down you have not lost your angles but your arms are way behind your body and your body then stalls so that your arms can catch up to the body; and as soon as the body stalls the arms won't get to the ball without some flipping. This is a problem that at some times has dogged a number of players (including me) whose swings otherwise look good.
I would be reluctant to offer any advise on how to correct this until I heard a teacher more expert than me describe the problem similarly.
but i am pretty confident that your arms are way behind the pivot. Hope this is helpful
BTW, where do live that the weather is so good this time of year. I am envious
Jules
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Post by fullback on Nov 13, 2010 4:29:11 GMT -5
You have a good athletic move through the ball. Your head motion up and to the rear is the likely culprit in your inconsistent pushes and push fades. You're a little laid off at the top, too, but let's save that for later.
If I were standing beside you, I'd try to get you to swing without forcing your left shoulder under your chin. That's the cause of most of what ails you. Let you head resist your shoulder at the end of your backswing. Hinge your wrists a little more at the top and don't be afraid to slow down your downswing until you gain the right timing. Keeping your head more centered will steepen your angle of attack, giving you more ball height.
You'll feel like you're shortening your swing (and will lose distance), but it doesn't happen that way. You'll gain more height and more carry on your iron shots. I would suggest you hit a bucket with an 8-iron, focusing on shoulder against your chin, hands hinging.
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Post by tightdraw on Nov 13, 2010 9:35:33 GMT -5
one small update having looked at the videos several times: two points not previously mentioned. you have so much knee flex in your left knee as you approach the ball that it affects the rotation of your left side (hip) through the ball. knee bend restricts hip rotation; this may well be the source of what you are referring to as your pivot stall. notice your right knee in the backswing has lost some of its flex which contributes to a good hip turn. not so for the left knee and the turning of left hip on the way through. some knee flex may well be desirable approaching impact, but the sensation must be of the left leg straightening. I feel pretty confident in saying this.
second, I respectfully disagree with fullback having run your video several times in as slow motion as I can get it. were you to stop your backswing as soon as your shoulders hit your head, your shoulder turn would be less than 60* (more or less)-- nowhere near adequate for full shots. My inclination is to think that the shoulder turn you have is too flat and that you are not driving your shoulder sufficiently down: too much to the right and not enough down. again this seems pretty clear to me. a good key I learned to cure this problem was to think of starting the backswing withthe picture of moving my left shoulder in the direction of my right foot. it keeps arms close to the body; moves arms in sync with the body and increases the down of the shoulders in the backswing.
again, I would take everything you receive in the form of cirtique or advise here with a grainery of salt, but that's what I see. I am betting though that if you try these two moves -- your ball striking and motion will both improve; there is much else in your motion that is very sound
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Post by fullback on Nov 13, 2010 19:32:38 GMT -5
I didn't say to stop his backswing. The chin should resist the lateral shift of his left shoulder. The right shoulder continues to rotate to a full turn of the shoulder "unit."
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Post by mchepp on Nov 13, 2010 20:56:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions. These are certainly some things to think about.
I live in San Jose Ca which is about an hour south of San Francisco. We have great weather from April until December. From December to April we can still play but we get a decent amount of rain and cooler weather.
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