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Post by cwdlaw223 on Apr 27, 2012 18:04:41 GMT -5
Iacas will have to provide them. For me, I have to get used to keeping my hands ahead to engage the bounce and TRUST that the wedge won't dig. Hard to do after years of wedges that would dig and I know some flip action in there as well.
Jeffy -
If the irons are designed with more leading edge bounce the drive/hold release might be easier to accomplish because the leading edge won't dig into the ground as much. Just a guess.
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Post by anthony on May 1, 2012 3:21:08 GMT -5
tried my friends. it feels ok . smaller sweetspot.
interesting shape but im not sold yet. will like to see after im fitted.
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Post by cloran on May 1, 2012 5:56:33 GMT -5
Aren't all sweetspots the same size?
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Post by cwdlaw223 on May 1, 2012 6:47:44 GMT -5
The Edel matches bounce to your attack angle. You have to get fitted to see big results. I can make that "thump" sound almost every time now and no longer fear wet fairways.
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Post by Richie3Jack on May 1, 2012 7:12:35 GMT -5
Aren't all sweetspots the same size? Yes. It's about the size of a needle point. The 'area' that people mistakenly believe is the sweetspot is just the area around the sweetspot where the clubhead has its most MOI. 3JACK
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Post by cloran on May 3, 2012 8:33:22 GMT -5
Questions:
1. When being fit for a putter do you actually hit balls with the laser aiming thingy? If not, how does the fitter combat the "who cares if I'm 1" off at address if I'm square at impact" theory? (note: I don't fall into that category... just curious)
2. For arguments sake let's look at a 60* LW with 21* bounce (per CWs specs). How would a person go about hitting a 20y-30y pitch shot off hardpan with this setup? I ask because my local muni is pretty much ALL hardpan. I'll venture a guess: because of the severe heel/toe/center-rear flange relief the steep bounce angle is minimized to some extent. The center-rear relief allows the player to open the face while keeping the leading edge on the ground AND does not increase the effective bounce because of the heel relief. amiright?
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Post by Richie3Jack on May 3, 2012 9:52:01 GMT -5
You don't hit balls with the laser on. That's because the putter face has a small mirror connected to it and the laser bounces off the mirror. You would be better off getting on a SAM Puttlab to figure out what you are doing at impact anyway.
My feeling is that if you are off at address and square at impact, you want an Edel for *some* reason in order to improve your putting. Perhaps you cannot consistently achieve a square putter at impact. I think a lot of improving your mechanics with putting is to reduce the compensations. If you are mis-aligned at address, you then have to compensate for it coming into impact. I would rather not compensate. I know I wasn't too far from this aiming about 2* right at address and then getting the putter to about 0.25 to 0.5* open at impact. But, I had to do a lot of compensations for that.
I would defer the rest to Edel fitters.
As far as the wedges go, they are really well built for hardpan. I think you have the right idea though.
3JACK
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Post by iacas on May 4, 2012 6:31:21 GMT -5
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Post by jeffy on May 4, 2012 15:34:30 GMT -5
Erik-
Look sweet! I'm scheduled with Mike Adams Sunday afternoon.
What do the numbers engraved on the hosel mean? I see "12" on your 1 wedge and a "9" on the 2 wedge.
Jeff
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Post by cwdlaw223 on May 4, 2012 17:34:26 GMT -5
Jeffy -
Please post your thoughts after your fitting. You know immediately the wedge that fits. You'll hear and feel that "thump" sound without digging.
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Post by iacas on May 4, 2012 21:04:58 GMT -5
Erik- Look sweet! I'm scheduled with Mike Adams Sunday afternoon. What do the numbers engraved on the hosel mean? I see "12" on your 1 wedge and a "9" on the 2 wedge. I don't know. I'm going to ask them.
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Post by jeffy on May 4, 2012 22:38:25 GMT -5
Jeffy - Please post your thoughts after your fitting. You know immediately the wedge that fits. You'll hear and feel that "thump" sound without digging. Never fear!!!
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Post by jeffy on May 6, 2012 19:46:55 GMT -5
Great session with Mike Adams today!
He initially fitted me with a 14 degree "pincher", but I asked to try out a high bounce wedge anyway. He gave me a 22 degree and I asked what type of swing that grind suited. He said a steep one. I said "I can do that" and started banging down on it, with a bit of a bowed wrist. Wow! That was it!
We went into a bunker and that wedge is like cheating: just bang down on it!
He also fitted me with a putter (changed me to a mallet from an Ping Anser-style blade). Took off a bunch of loft, too. Length and lie were perfect, though, on my old one, so no change there.
Can't wait for the new toys!
Jeff
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Post by cwdlaw223 on May 6, 2012 20:53:18 GMT -5
22* bounce for the 60* wedge? That's what I fit into. Driver wedge. Keep those hands ahead to engage the bounce. Great feeling, even on soft turf. There's definitely a learning curve with these wedges. You'll hit some "too perfect" for awhile. You also might flip a couple because your brain might not be used to hitting down with hands ahead so much.
That's my experience. Still waiting for my putter which takes longer to make.
How was your aim? I was 2-3* left every time with my old putter.
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Post by jeffy on May 7, 2012 12:32:50 GMT -5
How was your aim? I was 2-3* left every time with my old putter. High and right. Took it down by subtracting loft and adding offset. Pretty painless. No sight dots, lines, etc., just plain black. With a dancing "jeffy" in yellow, of course! Jeff
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