carland
'88 Apex Redlines
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Post by carland on Jun 13, 2011 17:22:17 GMT -5
Don't know about the plane but you're definitely "lagging the sweetspot" and not "lagging the hosel". I wish I could keep the face square to the plane like you have it at P6.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jun 13, 2011 19:29:57 GMT -5
You can be on plane with the clubshaft at p6, but not have the right forearm on plane at p6.
3JACK
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Post by gmbtempe on Jul 16, 2011 22:23:30 GMT -5
Well hit balls for the first time in a lil over a month, been a rough time for me since mid june and golf has taken a back seat.
I talked to Denny last night and it helped, was able to steepen the shoulder turn on the backswing without really doing anything with my shoulders. He said just feel like you are making a tennis serve and hey it worked.
I also figured out that it really does not matter what I do with my arms to get the proper P6 position, for me, it all revolves around the shoulder turn and spine tilts in the downswing. I was hitting it very low but at least they were compressed.
I play tomorrow with my bud Joel, probably wont play for shit but hey heres to low expectations.
I really don't have the right arm thrust down, I think I get into a pretty good position down from P5 to P6 but the right arm needs some work to get more on the Mora d fade pattern.
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Post by gmbtempe on Aug 23, 2011 16:09:14 GMT -5
Looking forward to starting to practice again, just maybe life will get back to normal soon.
Have not video taped my swing in 3 months but been playing a little hitting the ball the best I have in well over a year.
Not sure why really, something clicked back a month or so ago at my last post when playing with Joel and now am back to hitting golf shots. I would imagine lots of the training I did on my swing is probably still well ingrained but have not been thinking about anything when hitting the ball, just the type of shot I want to hit and then making it happen.
There is a golf course with a $40 a month range pass a 1/2 mile from my house, will abuse that over the winter for sure.
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Post by bentshaft on Aug 24, 2011 9:38:39 GMT -5
40$ a MONTH?? LOL
sweet deal---I spend that in a week and it's the cheapest place around (by far)...abuse the hell out of it!!
bent
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Post by gmbtempe on Sept 6, 2011 10:40:38 GMT -5
Been playing some super long courses lately and really feeling the affects of not getting the ball out there. Courses have been wetter and its more humid so good drives go between 250-270 and if you have a 480 yard hole or a 600 yard par 5, mix in 250 yard par 3 and it makes for a long round. Actually had a couple par 4's I had to lay up on the other day after good drives, to much trouble around the greens to try and hit a hybrid 225 into.
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Post by gmbtempe on Nov 4, 2011 15:02:10 GMT -5
Ok, its now very nice out and I got me new shiny range pass at the CC a mile from house.......sweeeeeeeeeet ;D Have not really worked on my swing since early summer. Last week I did a little work with Joel Kinney who is a member here, he is a friend of mine I play with a lot but also a very good teacher. He did not tell me anything new mechancially but the way he explained it was very different. I tended to get the club way to deep on the backswing with a flat shoulder turn, then the club was so far behind me that the hand path had a long long ways to go, had to go "around" my body. So I was late with the club, and under the plane, but not in a good player under the plane. The club head was coming in with hands very high, late, and mass uncocking to get down to the ball but under the plane. So two fixes, get the club less deep and in front of me, this is very much nothing new as Denny has been trying to get me there. I have it more in front of me but the way I am getting there is all messed up, its out and up rather than in and up. So I worry I will revert back to having to much flying wedge roll and get deep again. Other fix was downswing hand path. I need the hands to work down more, and for me it feels like they are going straight down behind me, which I had always thought was wrong, and if the hands get deep it could be an issue. The result though is the oppsite, the club comes down the TSP, its steeper rather than under, and my shoulders now are getting more open. Its very much a the "ring the church bell" feel, one that I never understood. The harder I pull down, then the hips work open the further and higher I was hitting it. Here are some photo comparisons to the summer. Check out the club position on the downswing. Not sure why but I am generating more power. video I think I need some help to get the backswing down but pretty encouraging.
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Post by tba on Nov 4, 2011 15:32:42 GMT -5
Try swinging it back, with the left arm pushing back in a swinging motion and having relaxed wrist joints are crucial, then you will have a free wheeling clubhead. Hard to tell but it looks like your lifting it/manipulating or trying to manufacture what you think is the right backswing. It's much easier when you swing it back and let the clubhead have free access to the plane of motion your seeking..JMO.
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Post by tightdraw on Nov 5, 2011 18:01:22 GMT -5
Greg, Lots of it looks great to me. TD
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 16, 2011 21:38:04 GMT -5
The casio is down so a quick iphone video.
Last night on Twitter moradman and mvmc gave me some advice on getting the right elbow less behind me and the club more in front of me on the back swing. I am tilting what feels like for me to the left which should ascend the left arm more and keep it from getting behind me.
I can work on the initial hand path but I really started compressing the ball nicely once I got it down.
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Post by gmbtempe on Dec 31, 2011 17:58:22 GMT -5
Working a new pattern here.
Very much a drive loading, delayed hips, trying to get the hands inside with the clubhead outside. Best shots were when I felt a 9 oclock backswing which always is more like 11 oclock.
The more I can trust firing the right shoulder down the plane the better and further I hit it.
Comments, suggestions.
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 15, 2012 16:36:47 GMT -5
If anyone is interested Kelvin did a review of my swing. He was very generous to do this. The video gets messed up at the end, just shut it at that point. Here is some swings working on it. The backswing movements are difficult for me as its so radical to what I was doing. You can see a little more squat though and rotation, it was not like I was trying to do it but it was a product of some of the other movements I was doing. I have been reading Kelvin's work tirelessly the past few weeks making detailed notes. I have also had to learn the biomechanical terms and movements to better grasp the information, so from that aspect alone its been enlightening. Whats interesting is I am always trying to get a better P6 position using my hands and arms and such, never could, yet I only worked on pivot and shoulder movements yesterday and my hands got more forward. I am always open to trying new things.
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Post by cloran on Jan 15, 2012 16:54:25 GMT -5
Why JB Holmes as the model?
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 15, 2012 16:58:34 GMT -5
Why JB Holmes as the model? Good question, though I have always liked his swing because it was more hitter than swinger, its the antithesis of Davis Love, which I don't have nearly the same structure. I think I would fit more with a Palmer, Holmes type model where strength is maximized. Honestly it felt like I was moving way off the ball yet if anything releasing flexion made it almost left at the top.
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Post by pavaveda on Jan 15, 2012 17:12:53 GMT -5
Why JB Holmes as the model? Maybe because he was longest on tour last year? Thanks Greg for posting that. Very interesting, and it'll be interesting to see what progressions or digressions you make if you continue down this road.
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