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Post by rj on Jan 29, 2013 14:28:04 GMT -5
If that's the case Richie why do you allow it here then? Teeace does nothing but shit on amateurs. Square circles?....Really who is the stupid one? "I grew up from the school that the professionals are supposed to act...professionally. Having professionals shitting on amateurs is a disrespect for the game, for the PGA, for other professionals and the collaborative effort being made to grow the game." Read more: richie3jack.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=generalgolf&action=display&thread=4067&page=1#ixzz2JOPgQLrsRichie, I think you really should throw this multinick Footwedge out of here. Haven't seen worse troublemaker in any forum than this guy The truth is you are delusional and shit on amateurs constantly. The other truth is whatever your problem is with whoever has nothing to do with this issue does it?
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 29, 2013 14:42:09 GMT -5
Richie you don't remember who started anything... for real who started it and when and what was it about? It's on ongoing war that started before you got involved, there's more things behind it then just this crap. Just be a Man and admit that you want revenge and that's why you let a guy who has his own forum come here and shit in your forum that used to be about golf and now is a latrine for Jeffy to piss in. Just come clean at least we can respect that. Your forum do what you want but your hands are just as dirty. My post on this thread was that: 1. I don't feel the need to tell the world whom I trust and distrust. 2. I take umbrage with their attitude towards Greg. Natep cried foul because I stated that I haven't seen Greg or Lloyd act poorly on Manzella's forum and that the only reason why I think they shit on them is because they are not 'blind lemmings.' I did mention I could see some skepticism over Lloyd because he is a competitor of Brian's. But, Greg? Natep then explained that Greg has claimed that Brian is a cult leader on different forums. Natep never answered my question if his feelings about Greg are the same as Jared Willerson's. I can only assume that they are otherwise he would not have jumped to Willerson's defense. I thought as far as online message boards go, they were 'friends.' I think otherwise now. Anyway, Natep went off topic and stated that I should not be surprised if somebody gets offended if they are called an idiot. Well, I don't recall Greg ever calling Brian an idiot. I've been on the forums as long as Greg (probably longer) and I've seen how they have shit on him totally unprevoked. That was my point. I understand they hate Jeffy and vice versa. I don't understand their constant begrudgment of Greg from Day 1. Complaining that Greg can't be trusted is a real hoot coming from them. I DO know who 'started it' between Greg and Brian and Co. and I also DO know who started it with Brian and Co. and myself. Why don't Greg, Lloyd and myself have troubles on other message boards? And I'll mention it...again. I'm the only person who moderates this forum and I don't have all day to moderate every post on here. Lastly, here's a truth that will really hurt some people... I created a folder called 'The Teachers Folder' that is designed to not allow ANY criticism whatsoever. And you can't go on a non-teacher folder on the message board and criticize it there. I put that Teacher's folder up on April 18, 2012. And... We have 5 total threads. The truth is that many of you who cry foul over internet flame wars and such are the same people that are drawn only to them. If that wasn't the case, the teacher's folder would have a LOT more traffic. I'm not interested in making this a flame war haven, but I'm not interested in trying to moderate every post and sentence that is presented as attacking somebody else. If you want to avoid it, go to the Teacher's folder. Since so few people post in the teacher's folder, I can only draw the conclusion that for all of the bluster they are drawn to the flames. 3JACK
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Post by rj on Jan 29, 2013 14:46:16 GMT -5
I was not talking about Greg at all. Matter of fact it should have zero to do with Greg.
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 29, 2013 14:49:44 GMT -5
I have 10,000 posts on golf around the net, I am sure there are probably a few over the line, but I really have tried to tone back the personal ones, I leave that for people who attended or are fans of Ohio St or Michigan State.
I think its one of the reasons I can get along with Jeff Mann, I dont really care if he says a thought is idiotic or wrong headed, I only care about the information. He has to date never IMO made a personal attack towards me in the sense that I took at as such.
There is a pissing match between some posters, I generally just ignore all posts that dont have golf information, it works well for me.
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Post by rj on Jan 29, 2013 14:54:02 GMT -5
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 29, 2013 15:18:44 GMT -5
I was not talking about Greg at all. Matter of fact it should have zero to do with Greg. It has everything to do with Greg. Regardless if you were not talking about Greg, that's what my initial post in this thread was about...taking umbrage with how they have treated Greg over the years. And Natep's initial response to that was that Greg deserved it. I generally think Natep's anger is guided more towards Jeffy and then myself for allowing Jeffy and Tapio to post here. But, the original point is them claiming that guys like Greg are talking trash behind their back is extremely hypocritical since they have done it to Greg first. And they have done that to me first. You have tried to steer the subject towards Jeffy. I'm not willing to go there because all of this was initialy from Jared Willerson's post about how 'coach' (Lloyd) and gmbtempe (Greg) can't be trusted and talk smack about them on other forums. That IS the crux of the issue in this thread. 3JACK
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Post by rj on Jan 29, 2013 15:45:43 GMT -5
Gee Richie who was the O.P.? You know the one that started this thread.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 29, 2013 15:51:31 GMT -5
Gee Richie who was the O.P.? You know the one that started this thread. What does it really have to do with anything? The content of the OP was Jared Willerson taking another shot at Greg, essentially calling him a backstabber. That's what I responded to. I pointed out specific examples and how I think I think Greg is getting jobbed for what I can only see as somebody who is not a blind lemming. Natep took offense to the blind lemming comment and then continued to throw Greg under the bus while supporting Jared. Then supposedly WE are the ones taking shots at people when the reality is that they are ones taking the shots at people and don't like it when somebody dishes it back to them. 3JACK
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Post by rj on Jan 29, 2013 16:00:14 GMT -5
You commented on a lot more than the treatment of Greg which by the way I agree with you on. So I commented on those other things and a few more....so?
There's lots of threads where posters make comments other than on the "crux" of the issue.
I'm done on this issue.
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 29, 2013 16:02:53 GMT -5
i am assuming brian nixed that post?
jared and i have gotten into it a bit since he became a mod, not sure we ever crossed much when he was glcoach.
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Post by birlyshirly on Jan 29, 2013 16:43:18 GMT -5
But, there's some give and take and some of it needs to be limited down and some of it is the responsibility of the readers to say 'hey, I don't like person X's posts...so I won't read them.' I agree. But you could extend that logic to "I don't like person X's website...so I won't spend hours trying to trash them on every other forum I can access." I don't really care about who started what on whom. I got off to a bad start when I joined Brian's forum - but where I've disagreed with anything that "the Academy" thinks, I either post it there and try not to get banned, or I keep my thoughts to myself. I don't agree with everything over there - but I don't have a problem with anyone either. PMs sort most things out with no drama. Jeff talks Brian down at every opportunity - but at least he has the excuse that he can't take the fight to Brian on his own turf, which he surely would, given the chance. I don't think natep or cloran are simply defending Brian, but reacting to the tendency to tar everyone who posts there with the same brush. I guess I should be offended too, but these forum wars are getting really, really stale.
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Post by Richie3Jack on Jan 29, 2013 17:17:03 GMT -5
I agree. But you could extend that logic to "I don't like person X's website...so I won't spend hours trying to trash them on every other forum I can access." I don't spend hours trying to trash them. Occasionally I will see some of their posts that are nonsensical and comment on them. I don't start threads myself attacking Brian. Here's another thing... I've never been banned over there. Yet, I stopped posting there over a year ago. Meanwhile you have guys like Finney trying to sneak onto this forum. I think the main thing is that they don't like Jeffy and his posts. I tend to think Jeffy raise a lot of good questions other times he doesn't. And of course, I don't like the constant name calling, but everybody keeps doing it and then I have to delete posts, edit posts, etc. So many people are guilty of that stuff it's absurd when they claim somebody else should be banned. And vice versa. I don't think cloran was either since I've cultivated some sort of relationship with him and I have a good idea of what type of person he is. Natep was flat out defending Brian. He wanted to go after Jeffy and myself because he was pissed off at my blind lemmings comment. But, when I stated that I took umbrage with how they have treated Greg over the years...he defended Brian and Co. by saying that Greg called Brian a 'cult leader' on some other forum. I concur. 3JACK
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Post by cloran on Jan 29, 2013 17:18:22 GMT -5
But, there's some give and take and some of it needs to be limited down and some of it is the responsibility of the readers to say 'hey, I don't like person X's posts...so I won't read them.' I agree. But you could extend that logic to "I don't like person X's website...so I won't spend hours trying to trash them on every other forum I can access." I don't really care about who started what on whom. I got off to a bad start when I joined Brian's forum - but where I've disagreed with anything that "the Academy" thinks, I either post it there and try not to get banned, or I keep my thoughts to myself. I don't agree with everything over there - but I don't have a problem with anyone either. PMs sort most things out with no drama. Jeff talks Brian down at every opportunity - but at least he has the excuse that he can't take the fight to Brian on his own turf, which he surely would, given the chance. I don't think natep or cloran are simply defending Brian, but reacting to the tendency to tar everyone who posts there with the same brush. I guess I should be offended too, but these forum wars are getting really, really stale. I'm not defending anyone, as you said... R3J is letting Jeffy run roughshod all over this place. He has his own forum, why he can't keep his hate there is beyond me.
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 29, 2013 17:23:53 GMT -5
I dont think I have ever had a run in with Natep, in fact I owe him as he took his personal time to mail me some info I was looking for. Its all getting very stale. I think Brain likely just thought Jeffy was going to go away when he did those video, instead it ignited
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Post by gmbtempe on Jan 29, 2013 17:29:43 GMT -5
I agree. But you could extend that logic to "I don't like person X's website...so I won't spend hours trying to trash them on every other forum I can access." I don't really care about who started what on whom. I got off to a bad start when I joined Brian's forum - but where I've disagreed with anything that "the Academy" thinks, I either post it there and try not to get banned, or I keep my thoughts to myself. I don't agree with everything over there - but I don't have a problem with anyone either. PMs sort most things out with no drama. Jeff talks Brian down at every opportunity - but at least he has the excuse that he can't take the fight to Brian on his own turf, which he surely would, given the chance. I don't think natep or cloran are simply defending Brian, but reacting to the tendency to tar everyone who posts there with the same brush. I guess I should be offended too, but these forum wars are getting really, really stale. I'm not defending anyone, as you said... R3J is letting Jeffy run roughshod all over this place. He has his own forum, why he can't keep his hate there is beyond me. Jeffy is on a lot of forums
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