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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 13:09:03 GMT -5
Oh, and 12 sensors means 12 sensors. That's all it can track. Laws of physics, you know. And, are you sure the extension/flexion data is correct???
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 15, 2013 13:21:54 GMT -5
Are you sure your conclusion from one video are correct? That's a better question.
I don't care what type of system gives me numbers! I want technology to improve and get better. But making claims about the golf swing from a Casio (or one Phantom) as gospel often leads to errors (ex. Wrists drive/holding, pelvis/thorax continuously accelerating, etc.).
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 13:27:14 GMT -5
Are you sure your conclusion from one video are correct? That's a better question. I don't care what type of system gives me numbers! I want technology to improve and get better. But making claims about the golf swing from a Casio (or one Phantom) as gospel often leads to errors (ex. Wrists not drive/holding, pelvis/thorax continuously accelerating, etc.). It's impolite to answer a question with a question, as well as craven to change the subject. What validation has been done on the AMM system, especially the wrist extension/flexion graphs?
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 15, 2013 13:28:56 GMT -5
Says who?
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 15, 2013 13:33:24 GMT -5
What validation has been done that what you see on video is what actually happens? Certainly what you see is what happens. Case closed!
I know you need to attack the data that defeats Kelvin's drive/holding, continuous acceleration and low Flexion/extension concepts. Good luck with that strategy. Doesn't work on the Facebook site from which you're banned.
Even Jeff Mann can figure out the biomechanical errors in Kelvin's classification system. Keep trying!
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 13:35:17 GMT -5
What validation has been done that what you see on video is what actually happens? Certainly what you see is what happens. Case closed! I know you need to attack the data that defeats Kelvin's drive/holding, continuous acceleration and low Flexion/extension concepts. Good luck with that strategy. Doesn't work on the Facebook site from which you're banned. Even Jeff Mann can figure out the biomechanical errors in Kelvin's classification system. Just answer the question. I assume this ranting just means that you "don't know".
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 15, 2013 13:41:51 GMT -5
You answer my question first since video came first! I'll presume you can't answer my question or prove that what you see is what is exactly happening in detail!
When you're wrong the other person is ranting? Great debating tactic to deflect your own errors.
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Post by teeace on Aug 15, 2013 14:15:06 GMT -5
Must be a result of the final findings from the research a thon!!! Wrong Jeffy! Tapio's system can't provide lead/trail wrist data as he admitted. 12 sensors doesn't mean 12 graphs! Keep trying Jeffy! I suspect you haven't been on AMM. Why even bother with multiple cameras? I might end up buying that unit if the price point is less than $5,000. Price counts and I want impact data. So you are once again talking about things you understand nothing. ZERO! That information can be read from graphs and it's not crucial at all for learning. Anyway it's really simple to read from wrist club head relation, so we got no problem with that. If we want to put it out it's only question of calculation between those two points... about same what they do and as accurate as they got... or even more. But there is 100 more important thing to show for student than that. For example reasons why player can have bowed or cupped wrist at impact.
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 14:15:35 GMT -5
Must be a result of the final findings from the research a thon!!! Wrong Jeffy! Tapio's system can't provide lead/trail wrist data as he admitted.12 sensors doesn't mean 12 graphs! Keep trying Jeffy! I suspect you haven't been on AMM. Why even bother with multiple cameras? I might end up buying that unit if the price point is less than $5,000. Price counts and I want impact data. Yes, he said it is too complicated and that a system like AMM would need at least 4 sensors instead of one. Why do you ignore that? Why do you trust the AMM data blindly?
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 14:17:10 GMT -5
You answer my question first since video came first! I'll presume you can't answer my question or prove that what you see is what is exactly happening in detail! When you're wrong the other person is ranting? Great debating tactic to deflect your own errors. Wrong about what? What errors? I asked you a question and you went off on a bunch of new topics.
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 14:18:10 GMT -5
What validation has been done that what you see on video is what actually happens? Certainly what you see is what happens. Case closed! I know you need to attack the data that defeats Kelvin's drive/holding, continuous acceleration and low Flexion/extension concepts. Good luck with that strategy. Doesn't work on the Facebook site from which you're banned. Even Jeff Mann can figure out the biomechanical errors in Kelvin's classification system. Keep trying! What "biomechanical errors"? That's news to me.
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 14:19:33 GMT -5
What validation has been done that what you see on video is what actually happens? Certainly what you see is what happens. Case closed!I know you need to attack the data that defeats Kelvin's drive/holding, continuous acceleration and low Flexion/extension concepts. Good luck with that strategy. Doesn't work on the Facebook site from which you're banned. Even Jeff Mann can figure out the biomechanical errors in Kelvin's classification system. Keep trying! Very extensive, obviously. You really ask some loony questions...
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Post by jeffy on Aug 15, 2013 14:21:59 GMT -5
How the heck they think to get natural swing measured with tons of cables around the body? Insanity. I wouldn't want to own any of their stock. Dodo bird technology.
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 15, 2013 15:39:23 GMT -5
Must be a result of the final findings from the research a thon!!! Wrong Jeffy! Tapio's system can't provide lead/trail wrist data as he admitted.12 sensors doesn't mean 12 graphs! Keep trying Jeffy! I suspect you haven't been on AMM. Why even bother with multiple cameras? I might end up buying that unit if the price point is less than $5,000. Price counts and I want impact data. Yes, he said it is too complicated and that a system like AMM would need at least 4 sensors instead of one. Why do you ignore that? Why do you trust the AMM data blindly? Why do you trust Tapio that it's too complicated?
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Post by cwdlaw223 on Aug 15, 2013 15:43:23 GMT -5
What validation has been done that what you see on video is what actually happens? Certainly what you see is what happens. Case closed!I know you need to attack the data that defeats Kelvin's drive/holding, continuous acceleration and low Flexion/extension concepts. Good luck with that strategy. Doesn't work on the Facebook site from which you're banned. Even Jeff Mann can figure out the biomechanical errors in Kelvin's classification system. Keep trying! Very extensive, obviously. You really ask some loony questions... Only question was the same type of question you love to ask everyone else when it comes to an epistemological issue. You don't hold your own beliefs up to the same standards you require from others. So what biomechanist supports the continuous acceleration theory? That the wrists are driving/holding? Step up to the plate Jeffy. I suspect you don't have one name (not sure Rick Malm counts as a biomechanist).
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